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Big Love Klein is a fine-tune of Flux 2 klein. It can do txt2img and also edit images with prompts. It only needs 4 steps, so is quite fast. Check the "About this version" box on the right for info on the individual variants. Some are up to 3x faster.
It is recommended to use it with ComfyUI. Put the downloaded model into the diffusion models sub folder of ComfyUI. You also need qwen_3_8b_fp8mixed.safetensors in the text_encoders sub folder (Qwen3-8B-Q5_K_M.gguf wth 8 GB VRAM) and flux2-vae.safetensors in the vae sub folder.
Settings are 4 steps (2 steps for upscaling), cfg1, Euler sampler, Beta scheduler, 832x1216, 1024x1536, 1280x1920 or 1536x2240 pixels
Big Love Gwen is a finetune of Qwen Edit 2511 and can do NSFW image editing. It produces more realistic and sharp images with better skin texture & genitals than other Qwen checkpoints/loras. Txt2img is less reliable, but generates nice results too.
Big Love Gwen1 allows commercial usage without additional fees (if no auto-generation involved) unlike Big Love Klein. With its better anatomy it is easier to get good editing results. As fast at 6 steps as Klein at 4 steps. Check the "About this version" box on the right for info on the individual variants.
It is recommended to use ComfyUI. The Gwen1 workflows offer a skin enhance feature that is not available in Forge Neo. Move the Gwen1 model file into the diffusion_model sub folder of the models folder of ComfyUI, qwen_2.5_vl_7b_fp8_scaled.safetensors into the text_encoder sub folder and qwen_image_vae.safetensors into the vae sub folder.
For training a lora read here for Gwen1.
Settings are 6 steps (3 steps for upscaling), cfg1, Euler sampler, Beta scheduler, 832x1216 or 1024x1536 pixels.
Big Love Eryn is a fine-tune of Ernie-Image(-Turbo). You can run it locally with ComfyUI and Forge Neo. The fp8 version works with 8 & 12 GB VRAM. Use the (pruned) bf16 version if you have 16 GB VRAM or more. The "Full" versions are only meant for training a lora (coming soon!). Put the downloaded model into the diffusion models sub folder of ComfyUI or the StableDiffusion sub folder of Forge Neo. You additionally need to place ministral-3-3b.safetensors in the text_encoder sub folder and flux2-vae.safetensors in the VAE sub folder.
Settings are 4-6 steps (3-4 steps for upscaling), cfg1, Euler sampler, Beta scheduler, 832x1216 or 1024x1536 pixels.
Big Love Hyper supports generating at image sizes of 1664x2232 (4 megapixel) and higher with SDXL. Can be easily upscaled to 9 megapixel unlike the normal low-res images. Hyper currently has not fully stable anatomy, so needs more runs. Some prompts work better than others. It produces highly detailed and life-like images close to real photos. It has a special quality that cannot be achieved by just upscaling. The Hyper versions of Big Love are pay-only and special license conditions apply (see below).
Settings are DMD2 lora with strength 1.0, LCM Exponential, 8 steps, cfg 1, clip skip 2, 1664x2432 or 1536x2240. Upscale with img2img with DMD2 lora with strength 1.0, same prompt, LCM Exponential, 1.25-1.5x, 4-8 steps, cfg 1, 0.3-0.5 denoise, clip skip 2.
Big Love ZT, Zia or Zuna are fine-tunes of Z-Image(-Turbo) on the Big Love dataset. You can run it locally with ComfyUI and Forge Neo. The fp8 version works faster with 8 GB VRAM but produces more noise so may sometimes look more realistic, but details are not as good. Use the (pruned) bf16 version if you have 12 GB VRAM or more. The "Full" version is only meant for training a lora. Put the downloaded model into the diffusion models sub folder of ComfyUI or the StableDiffusion sub folder of Forge Neo. To make Big Love ZT/Zia/Zuna work you additionally need to place qwen3_4b.safetensors in the text_encoder sub folder and ae.saftendors in the VAE sub folder.
Settings are 8 steps, cfg1, Euler or DPM++ 2s a RF sampler, Normal or Simple or Beta scheduler, 832x1216, 1024x1536 or 1280x1920 pixels. For upscaling 8 steps, cfg1, Euler sampler, Normal or Simple or Beta scheduler, 1.5x upscale.
Big Love Ultra supports generating at image sizes of 1280x1870, 1360x1984 and higher. Can be easily upscaled to 6 megapixel unlike the normal low-res images. More photorealistic and detailed. A special quality that cannot be achieved by just upscaling. Ultra produces more details & sharpness when upscaling and detailing low-res images. The Ultra versions of Big Love are pay-only and special license conditions apply. See below.
Settings are DMD2 lora with strength 1.0, LCM Exponential, 8 steps, cfg 1, clip skip 2, 1280x1864 or 1360x1984. Upscale with img2img with DMD2 lora with strength 1.0, same prompt, LCM Exponential, 1.25-1.5x, 4-8 steps, cfg 1, lora strength 1.0, 0.3-0.5 denoise, clip skip 2.
Big Love Photo and Insta1 are finetuned versions of XL. Lust1 is a finetuned version of Lustify merged with Photo. They were trained on thousands of images and dozens of new concepts. Why they are the most realistic and versatile. For more details and prompting Photo1 read this article.
Settings are DMD2 lora with strength 1.0, LCM Exponential, 8 steps, cfg 1, clip skip 2, 832x1216 or 1024x1496. Upscale with img2img with DMD2 lora, same prompt, LCM Exponential, 1.25-1.5, 4-8 steps, cfg 1, lora strength 1.0, 0.3-0.5 denoise, clip skip 2.
Big Love XL is a combination of 5 different training branches of SDXL: original SDXL, bigASP, NatVis, Anteros and Pony. With a bit of Pony in it, some Pony loras (poses, characters) work too. It outputs a more photorealistic & creative look than the Pony versions and can also do paintings & cartoon.
Settings are DMD2 lora with strength 1.0, LCM Exponential, 8 steps, cfg 1-1.5, clip skip 2, 832x1216 or 1024x1496. Upscale with img2img with DMD2 lora, same prompt, LCM Exponential, 1.5-2x, 8-12 steps (XL1/XL2), 4-8 steps (XL2.5-XL4), cfg 1, lora strength 1.0, 0.3-0.5 denoise, clip skip 2.
Big Love Pony produces different images than both Pony & SDXL-based models. Pony tags are understood, but interpreted a bit differently. Some images lean more in the one or other direction depending on the prompt. It works with Pony loras as well as normal SDXL ones. It can turn anime/cartoon into photorealistic images in img2img. Pony3 includes a bit of Illustrious.
Settings are DMD2 lora with strength 1.0, LCM Exponential, 8 steps, cfg 1-1.5, clip skip 2, 832x1216 or 1024x1496. Upscale with img2img with DMD2 lora, same prompt, LCM Exponential, 1.5-2x, 8-12 steps, cfg 1, lora strength 1.0, 0.3-0.5 denoise, clip skip 2.
ComfyUI Workflow:
Download one of the following images and drag'n'drop it onto Comfy:
Klein, Eryn and Gwen workflows are embedded in the showcase images.
Z-Turbo/Z-Base txt2img & Upscale Workflow (recommended)
SDLX DMD2 txt2img & Upscale Workflow (recommended)
SDXL DMD2 txt2ing & Upscale for Big Love Ultra
SDXL DMD2 img2img Workflow
SDXL Lightning Workflow
Trained Concepts
Newer versions of Big Love include the concepts of older versions, e.g. Photo4 can do everything that Photo1 to Photo3 can do and more. The only exception are the Insta concepts, but they have been partially added to never versions too.
Photo6/Ultra5: ai-style, bodyscape, butt plug, candid amateur, cumshot, illustrious-style, outdoor sex, partner fingering, photoart, innie pussy, ray-style, rebellious, reflection, sensual, sexy ass, sweetheart, wedgie
Photo5/Ultra4/Hyper1: alluring, anal sex, artistic photo, artistic pinup, charming, cum portrait, cute asian, cute pinup, cute portrait, double oral, dreamy-style, face pov, fantasy pinup, fantasy-style, kai-style, lowkey, mj-style, outdoor flashing, photo art, pole dance, public indecency, public nudity, rock climbing, scify-style, sword pose, vaginal sex
Photo4/Photo4.5/Ultra2/Ultra3: 2girls kissing, acrobatic sex, average face, beautiful face, amateur pinup, anal fingering, artistic portrait, cuddling, cum swapping, doggystyle pov, even skin color, fashion photo, female masturbation, female pov, finger licking, food porn, footjob, french kiss, full nelson, funny movie, funny tongue out, insta cute, legs pov, low contrast, mirror portrait, nude pose, oral pov, orgasm face, outdoor nude, penis licking, pinup photo, pro photo, pro portrait, pussy licking, sex pov, sexy portrait, vaginal fingering, waterfall
Photo3/Lust1/Ultra1: 360 degree photo, 3d selfie, 69 position, adorable, alt beauty, anal gape, anal sex, average face, beach life, beautiful, beautiful face, candidness, cum, cute, deepthroat, dildo insertion, double exposure, enthusiastic, extreme pose, faces, fashion photo, female pov, fisting, follow me pov, girl next door, gorgeous, handjob, heroin chic, huge feet, huge hands, huge nipples, light rays, light streaks, lighting, low/mid/high contrast, lowkey/midkey/highkey, low/mid/high saturation, middle finger, motion blur, object insertion, detailed eyes, teeth, pro photo, pussy gape, real life, rooftop, round ass, sad, sexy pose, skin texture, skin tone, spread pussy, squirting, street portrait, testicle licking, testicle sucking, vaginal sex, voluminous hair, water splash
Insta1: amateur photo, fashion photo, insta selfie, pinup photo, pro photo, real life, big ass, bimbo, cute, luxurious, adorable, enthusiastic, average face, beautiful face, detailed eyes, sexy legs.
Photo2: 3d selfie, 69 position, adorable, alt beauty , amateur photo, ball licking, ball sucking, beach life, bubble butt, low/mid/high contrast, dildo insertion, double exposure, enthusiastic, extreme pose, female pov, follow me pov, forced perspective, girl next door, gorgeous, handjob, heroin chic, huge feet, huge hands, huge nipples, light rays, light streaks, lighting, middle finger, motion blur, no tan lines, object insertion, pussy gape, rooftop, sad, low/mid/high saturation, sexy pose, squirting, street portrait, water splash.
Photo1: amateur photo, pro photo, lighting, lowkey, midkey, highkey, beautiful, cute, candid, real life, average face, remarkable face, voluminous hair, skin tone, skin texture, 360 degree photo, spread pussy, deepthroat, fisting, anal gape, anal sex, vaginal sex.
Training a (character) lora
My advice is this: Take 10-30 high quality images (at least 50-100 for styles or poses), download OneTrainer, click the SDXL lora preset, choose Big Love as the base checkpoint, add your images as a concept, add tags on the Tools tab, and start training. If you train on Big Love Ultra change the training resolution to 1536 and provide 1248x1832 images.
You will only get the full Big Love quality by training on real photos or extremely photorealistic images, which is usually not the case with a fictional character. It is all about image quality and not choosing boring images. Don't add posing images to a character lora, because Big Love provides the posing later for it. Focus mainly on good portraits with a few upper and full body images. Rather fewer higher quality images than a lot of average images. Read here for traing a lora on Big Love ZT2, ZT3, Zia1, Zuna1 or Eryn1.
Fixing Anatomy
If you want to keep the seed and repair anatomical problems in an image, activate the Extra checkbox in A1111/Forge and set Variation Strength to 0.01 to 0.1. Then generate until anatomy is fine. In Comfy there are sampler nodes that support variation seed (e.g. Inspire Pack), which do the same thing. Also possible to change steps or add commas to the prompt, but I do not recommend it. Extra/Variation Seed is more powerful and convenient as it gives you endless variations with just one click. There is always a variation which looks similar or even better with great anatomy.
You don't need negative prompts for this. They are rather ineffective. You can also change the positive prompt to suppress things. Anatomy problems are also created by the prompt if you prompt contradicting poses that the model cannot combine. Better to fix the prompt first then.
Reducing Saturation, Warm Colors and Sharpness
These SDXL loras reduces the saturation and change the color temperature without reducing image quality. The lora strength defines the effect. Negative values increase saturation or add more warmth. To make an image softer use a lower strength for the DMD2 lora, e.g. 0.95, 0.9, 0.85.
Big Love Hyper/Ultra/Photo Sizes
Big Love Hyper supports these image sizes:
1664x2432 (recommend)
1536x2240
Big Love Ultra supports these image sizes:
1360x1984
1280x1872 (recommend)
Big Love Photo supports these image sizes:
1024x1496 (recommend)
832x1216
You can also use the 16:9 or 2:3 versions of these image sizes as well as landscape orientation, but the above should be more reliable.
The higher the image size, the lower the probability of good results. If you get too many problems with a higher image size, switch to the lower one. Some prompts do higher sizes fine, some do not. Do not use a lower image size than the recommended one, otherwise image quality will be lower. With higher image sizes anatomy problems occur too often.
Remove fill words and unusual tags in the prompt. They can cause a quality reduction with Big Love Ultra/Hyper as they were not trained. Shorter prompts should work better as it is less likely that bad or untrained tags are in it.
SFW Output - No Tits Please
"Is there a trick so that Big Love doesn't always generate raised shirts or visible breasts?" I get this asked so often, while it is so obvious. Big Love knows what men want so it gives it to them. Negatives don't work that well for it. So you got to speak to it in the positive prompt like you were taking to a nun. "Breasts? How dare you speak such an obscene word to me." Don't mention breasts or any of these sexy parts. Instead describe clothes a lot. Don't write down your impure thoughts. God forbid! Yeah, I know, so hard. Describe her body shape, which also implies certain tits underneath the clothes.
XL Prompting Advice
SDXL prompts & prompts from various SDXL checkpoints work with it. Pony prompts too, but they create a more photorealistic look. Natural language prompts tend to create artistic glamour images with less skin detail while normal tags do more photo-style images. Big Love XL gives individual words more attention, so you don't need to rework prompts like Big Love Pony requires sometimes.
XL1/XL2 has a tendancy towards cuteness and bright skin. If you get too much of it, remove words like cute, sweet, pale/fair skin & flash from the prompt. It also creates realistical analog photos with reduced image quality. Sometimes better to remove terms like analog or grain to increase quality. Decrease cfg to get a more natural look.
XL2.5 can sometimes get too sharp. Reduce cfg or use less steps in img2img to make images softer.
Pony Prompting Advice
Pony prompts & prompts from other checkpoints work with it. Score tags and fill words like masterpiece or perfect skin have as good as no effect usually. A negative prompt is often unnecessary unless you want to make something vanish or avoid underage, but it can also change the style of the image.
Pure booru tags and some other samplers may produce Pony style. Photographic terms or a simple prompts ensure a photo look. Sometimes it refuses to produce medium shots, portraits or close-ups unless you weigh the term heavily or remove feet, shoes, high heels, boots etc. from the prompt. wavy hair sometimes does not look so great.
If it refuses to do porn, try simplifying the prompt. If you want to do a portrait, don't describe surroundings too much. If you want to do porn, describe the action mainly and don't focus on the people or surroundings in the prompt. The largest part of the prompt should be about the main subject of the image.
If a prompt does not produce the intended image, you often only need to modify it a bit to make it work perfectly.
Using Character Loras
Big Love Pony supports Pony characters, but they look like real humans. There were some complaints about them not working, but the problem was not the model itself so far. So here are some tips:
* Try Pony as well as SDXL character loras
* Use a lora weight up to 1.5 if it does not reduce quality
* If it is a well known character, add the name in the prompt and also give it a higher weight if necessary.
* Check your negative prompt for problems. Delete it if necessary and rewrite it from scratch.
* Render a lot of images to be able to pick those with the best resemblance.
More SDXL Photorealism:
You can highly improve the images generated with this model by using img2img, upscaling, detailing etc. The SDXL Lightning lora enhances the look and constrast despite only 8 steps. Alternatively, the SDXL DMD2 lora produces a sharp, but more natural look with less contrast. Also check out the Subtle Style loras, which nicely enhance images.
Big Love License
Big Love SDXL versions are licensed under CreativeML Open RAIL++M, the Big Love Z-Image, Ernie & Qwen versions are licensed under Apache 2.0, and the Big Love Klein versions are licensed under the FLUX Non-Commercial License with the following additional terms:
For clarity, the following version tiers are defined:
Restricted versions: Ultra, Hyper, Klein, Zia, Zuna, Eryn, Gwen
Open versions: Pony, XL, Photo, Insta, Lust, ZT
1. You may use Big Love without crediting the creator.
2. You may sell the images that it generates.
3. You may only run the official Big Love versions of the SubtleShader account on Civitai and Tensor Art. Running it on other public or shared servers commercially (including other Civitai and Tensor Art accounts) requires a separate license or permission from the creator.
4. You may not sell this model or merges of this model.
5. You may not merge, share merges of, or share LoRA extractions incorporating Restricted versions. You may merge and share merges of Open versions.
6. When sharing the allowed merges of Open versions, as well as finetunes of them, you must apply these same additional license terms.
7. Redistribution of Restricted versions is prohibited. They may only be obtained from official sources designated by the creator.
8. All use-based restrictions of the CreativeML Open RAIL++M license apply to SDXL versions and their derivatives. All use-based restrictions of the FLUX Non-Commercial License apply to Klein versions and their derivatives.
9. Any restrictions in these additional terms may be waived only with explicit written permission from the creator.
TLDR: This is basically the same license as before (just stated more clearly), so nothing changes for the Pony, XL, Photo, Insta, Lust and ZT versions of Big Love. However, restrictions were added for Ultra, Hyper, Klein, Zia, Zuna, Eryn and Gwen versions (no merging, no redistribution). The "Share merges" condition below the license on the right hand side was only deactivated because of the restricted versions. Merging is still allowed for the open versions.
Many thanks to the creators of SDXL, Z, Qwen, Flux klein, Pony, bigAsp and Lustify for making their wonderful models available. Big thanks to RaymondLuxuryYacht for allowing me to train on his fabulous images.
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More photorealism, more natural skin color & lighting, sexier, rounder body shapes, more natural poses, better prompt following
FAQ
Comments (65)
Ok, now i'm a bit confused. Base Model is SDXL, but version number says "Pony"?
Sorry, fixed. Wanted to select "Pony" but that drop down menu was a bit glitchy. By the way, Pony v6 is based on SDXL.
You chose the most rigid models for a Pony merge.
Its very realistic, but at what cost?
Of course hardcore booru prompts dont work. If you make a pony, than make it usable with booru tags.
Bigasp+Lustify+Tame? Tame on its own is an overtrained model. Choose some flexible Pony checkpoint, if you want merge with SDXL.
You are right, but the main purpose was to make Big Love as photorealistic as possible & remove the Pony look. I know that this comes at the cost of less prompting flexibility. But it is what it is. If you want more flexibility, go download another realistic Pony based model & use it.
Overall, I'm quite satisfied with Big Love 2. More photorealistic & prompting improved. It is very capable of doing hardcore, but you just need to do more gens to get there. Its anatomical knowledge is better than that of bigASP & Lustify. So I like how this mix turned out.
Hmm, for the Lightning version, it seems that on Forge SDE makes the image quality very poor. It appears to work better with Euler/a.
I use SDE with SGM Uniform im Forge. I compared all samplers & schedulers and it produced the best results. Euler A is softer, but everyone has a different taste. So use what works best for you. If you post a image, I can try to reproduce with SDE for comparison.
Someone posted a comment, then delete it. As I already wrote an answer, I'll just post it here:
I mainly use Forge. Seems to work better for img2img upscaling with Lightning than Comfy. Higher quality. Likely possible with Comfy too, but probably with a different method. Have not explored that yet.
The standard SDXL VAE is embedded in Big Love. The seperate VAE node in the ComfyUI workflow is a remainder from when I did not have it embedded in the checkpoint.
I upscale then add back the original metadata into the PNG. That makes it easily reproducible. The upscaling uses a different seed but usually the same prompt & settings.
Oh my Lord. I had a jaw dropping evening.
This model improved in every way and imo way surpassed from what I expected from a new iteration. Thank you so much for this beautiful model.
What I found:
• Way more flexible
+ It's the first realistic model that nailed almost
every aspect of my intentions.
+ doesn't explode when you cranked up the
strength of a prompt. No it's the opposite:
you can often use high "(tokens:2.2)" which
sometimes act like an impaint. Nice!
+ character likeliness improved.
- background too much contrast and blurry
but you can counter that with "bokeh" in the
negatives quite well
+ Hardcore stuff is far more probable
• By far not as frustrating as Ver.1
+ I enjoyed every minute ♥
+ Probability of success is generally joyful
instead of exausting
• Img2Img gave me the best results far ahead of
any other model. (But I don't post img2img stuff
here, I wish noone did.)
• Loras work absolutely fine
• High resolution never gave me trouble
So far the best realistic model I've experienced.
Thanks for your feedback. Nice to hear that you enjoyed it. I also had the impression that prompting got better. Hardcore needs more attempts than other Pony models. Tried to improve it more, but then it started to look too pony, so left it.
I had a look in the gallery and I'm very amazed: it's Pony but it's so realistic it seems to be Flux!
And the prompts are not even stuffed of strange words to pimp the graphic...
The only problem is I tested it on Tensor Art and I cant get anything like this... Using their upscaler is a bit better but defintely still nothing like what I see here...
So, where is the real trick?
Problem with TensorArt is that SGM Uniform scheduler for Lightning is not supported if you don't pay. So had to set the default settings differently, which means lower quality. All of my images are generated & upscaled with Forge using the Lightning lora, which seems to produce the best quality. Lightning creates too much grain in ComfyUI when upscaling, but will try to find something that will do better.
TensorArt also uses ComfyUI in the background. Maybe I can upload that improved workflow there (once built). But more complex to use than the standard generation UI.
If anyone knows a better image generation service, let me know.
probably the best realistic model
Till Big Love v3 😊
Very good, but not Pony.
Porn tags dont work, requires sdxl language.
Faces are so diverse, lora characters dont even work. Its very good for quick solo 1girl generating. Complex prompts into trashbin.
Actually you should label this SDXL model, on that field there wouldnt be much competition. There is Lustify, all other porn model sucks. So you would get much more attention.
To be a Pony model, it must work with booru tags, and there are very good realistic models on the market, which can do effortless hardcore.
It is technically a Pony model. It uses a Pony clip & the initial weights are Pony, but they are partially overwritten by bigASP & Lustify weights. There is still the Pony look there with some prompts and it does some anatomical stuff that bigASP & Lustify can''t do. However, the main aim is photorealism. I tried versions whose prompting was more Pony-like, but the cost was a stronger Pony look. There are already enough models that are that way, so did not want to go down that road. I wanted to create something different and I like it.
It can do complex natural language prompts. Not sure why that works as the Pony clip should not allow that, but probably enabled by the bigASP & Lustify weights.
V2 already has better prompting, so I might be able to improve it more with future versions. I also plan to release bigASP based models under the Big Love name.
One way to improve upon what you are asking for is to use a pony model to generate a base image and use Big Love as the refiner - which would convert the image into a realistic one.
@nakif0968 Yep. Got to try. Did not yet. Will post some examples.
@nakif0968 Is there any more tricks, which works on Forge(refiner doenst work)?
I tried to make more realistic my pics with using Epicrealism SD1.5 as highres fix model, but the result is shittier.
@jamoricordale301 Using an SD15 model as a refiner for SDXL is probably not a good idea. A good rule of thumb is to use a superior model as a refiner. I sometimes use FLUX as a refiner because it has a superior VAE, allowing it to produce details no SDXL model could ever hope to achieve.
@nakif0968 Ok flux is out of my league, i have 8gb vram. I use Cyberrealistic 6.5, and could bear more realism. What would be the superior model? And refiner doesnt work with Forge. I meant highres fix, or other trick.
@jamoricordale301 FLUX is not necessarily out of your league, have you tried GGUF: HyperFLUX? You can look at the GGUFs I/others have created. Q4_0 should fit in 8 GB, however, what kind of speed you get would depend on your particular card. For NSFW realistic images, I guess Big Love / Lustify are good refiners.
@jamoricordale301 Just use Big Love in img2img for upscaling too. It will add more fine details then. I use the same settings in i2i as in t2i except seed. So Lightning is used in both. I just drop the t2i image into the image & prompt box in Forge, click the arrow button, reset the seed and enter 2 in the resize by box. If I get distortions, I go down to 1.5x. Denoise 0.4 or 0.5 usually. Sometimes more to fix problems, sometimes less to get a similar face. I reduce steps if oversharpened. I create 4-10 upscales, then choose the best. If none is good, combine them in Photoshop.
@SubtleShader Thanx man, but i dont do this much work for 1 picture. My images(eyes) are good out of stock, i dont even use adetailer, and barely hires. What i want is an automated trick for more realism.
Anyway your checkpoint is very good, to be ontopic.
@jamoricordale301 There is no automatism once a model reached its limit. You can then only improve it with methods like img2img or Photoshop.
all nsfw work fine for me on swarmui, just as good as any other pony, especially with V2 of this model. Same as pony specific embeds, and lora, all work fine, Stability matrix also detects these as pony models, not SDXL models.
This is a very good model for realism. I am using it almost every time but if I am not using it directly I am using it for refinement. Thank you @SubtleShader very good job. I hope V3 comes with more prompt understanding without compromising the image quality.
Thanks for your feedback. I noticed that quite a few people use it for refinement. Tried some of their prompts & like the results from Big Love 2 better. Just requires a bit prompt adjustment. Yes, prompt following is definitelly something to work on. Image quality is actually already top notch, but depends if you expect a more Pony or photorealistic look. It is somewhere inbetween, but more on the photorealistic side, which is actually not bad. Also depends on what tool & settings you use.
Nice job ! 💪
most realistic model!good job!thank you very much!
Thanks you!
My favorite pony, very raw looking photos, without the generic doll/alien looking faces most pony models have.
futa update are possible?
Just use a lora. Can be a Pony or SDXL one.
@SubtleShader Does it work with Pony characters too?
@noorgordan410 Yes, seems to do Pony characters. Just tried a few. But they look like humans 😁.
@SubtleShader unfortunately it’s look terrible 🤣
@mrxmas31725 Well, the photorealistic weights of Big Love are not that futa-compatible. You can still use a another Pony checkpoint that does futa & then apply Big Love in img2img.
I get great futa results with LORAs
best realism pony so far. definitely worth the disk space. works fine with most sdxl/pony loras I tried. thanks :)
This is actually such a great high-% of steps refiner to other Pony models based on realism. Since it struggles a bit with NSFW prompts that Pony models usually don't. But god, used as a high-% of the total steps refiner, it's fkn amazing. Like, 5-10 Base steps and then refine 30-40 steps.
Good job!
Thanks. It struggles with typical Pony prompts because it produces such high photorealism, because its weights are more photorealistic than that of other Pony models. But it also produces very nice txt2img results if you get used to its way of prompting & give it more attempts thsn other Pony models.
@SubtleShader oh I wasn't saying it was a bad thing. It actually seems to understand all the visual aspects of those NSFW concepts, just not able to achieve it thru prompting alone. Which is prob why it works so good as a refiner to other Pony models. I do like using it alone as well, it has taught me to be more creative in my wording.
Yeah, sadly. It would be number one, if it understood booru prompts rightly.
@kristansharon558 If it understoid them, it would not be as photorealistic. This still takes a lot of training by a lot of different peiple. We are not there yet, it takes times. Don't expect the impossible.
@SubtleShader Some compromise in your next version?
@kristansharon558 Next version will likely be called "bigASP 1.0" and be based on bigASP. Pony 3.0 will come later.
@SubtleShader I wait for BigAsp improve. How you can improve it, if i may ask?
@kristansharon558 What you can do already: Use another Pony model im txt2img and then apply Big Love in img2img. This way you have booru prompting combined with more realism.
Big Love bigASP-1.0 will try to keep the creativity of bigASP while reducing its bad results. It will not be a Pony model, but a purely photorealistic one.
@SubtleShader You should add several thousand high profile beauties hah
I can confirm that Big Love can generate Pony characters They look like real humans and are very photorealistic. Here is a list of known Pony characters: https://civitai.com/articles/5102/pony-diffusion-xl-recognized-characters-list
Amazing model, the realism is super good, sadly seems it can't work with realistic characters Loras
Which character loras do you mean? Pony ones? Give me an example!
@SubtleShader for sure, characters Loras likes celebrities, for example https://civitai.com/models/571843?modelVersionId=637408
Version V1 is for pony
@P_Universe
Actually it works ok, if you use up to 1.5 weight for the lora and add (Britney Spears:1.5) to the prompt.
Here are two other SDXL loras for you to try:
Britney Spears - SDXL v1.0 v1.0
Britney Spears SDXL - v1.0
But you still need to render various images to get her.
@SubtleShader interesting, yeah, I usually can get the results like her but with high strength, but those you recommend me are xl Loras, does that mean others character in xl would work with your model?, I thought it should only be pony ones
@P_Universe Big Love supports Pony and SDXL loras. So you can also use SDXL character loras. You can also use Pony charachters mentioned here: Pony Diffusion XL Recognized Characters without a lora.
@SubtleShader ohh, that's crazy, I will others characters and celebrity Loras to see how it goes and check the list, much apreciated
With your images you should show what the model itself can do. Adding a LoRA to your advertisement images is heavily changing the output.
Well, that is the case with any model if you use a too high lora weight. Not sure what you want to say...
@SubtleShader The preview images of your model should not include other models/LoRA. Only the model you have uploaded should be used for the preview.
@Lucifie I amost always use the Lighning lora with it. I could have merged Lightning into the model, but that would have made the model less universally usable. So, I don't see a problem. There is no law that says that I have to do that. So, just use Lightning with it and be happy.
Big Love XL1 out ...
Based on SDXL. Crazier & more spontanous images, cuter faces, more dynamic poses, better prompt following. Still a bit of Pony in it, so supports Pony loras. Prints text nicely. Less strong texture by default, but you can increase Lightning steps (up to 12) or use Pony2 for upscaling.
I'm excited! This month?
@BinaryBottleBake Rather within 24h
@SubtleShader Thats awesome! can't wait!
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