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    The Araminta Experiment (SDXL+Flux) - Gv1
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    If you enjoy my contribution to this community, feel free to buy me a coffee: the more caffeine I drink the more models I can create 😅

    Comparison gallery here: Fv6-Fv5 and NSFW illustration comparison between Gv1-Cv6-Fv2.

    Current SOTA model in my experiment:

    • SDXL Base model: Gv4 is the most balanced model allowing both realistic and styled NSFW and SFW images. Better aesthetic than Fv6 but less photorealistic.

    • SDXL photorealist (SFW and NSFW) model: Fv6 is the way to go for hyper-realism including realistic NSFW images but it mostly lacks the styling capabilities of Gv4.

    • SDXL Illustration : Gv4 (SFW and NSFW). Cv6 is however still worth a try if you are not into NSFW images.

    • Flux model: Flux1-A1

    Image Generation Settings for SDXL models

    DPM++ 2/3M SDE / Karras or Exponential are always a good bet with 25+ steps and CFG around 5-7. But DPM++ SDE / Karras with less steps (e.g. 12) and higher CFG (8-11) is worth a try as is Euler Ancestral / Normal for a less detailed result which may also be interesting with a model like Fv6 to get something less "noisy".

    The default CLIP Skip of 2 is also a good bet, but using 1 or 3-4 is also worth trying: 1 push more towards prompt adherence and 3-4 give sometimes a better result than the default focusing more on the "concepts".

    Image Generation Settings for Flux models

    My preferred settings are DPM++ 2M / beta or sgm_uniform or DDEIS / normal for the sampler / scheduler, beta giving a bolder stronger image. For a more subtle image, Euler / simple or beta seems a good bet.

    CFG seems to have a huge impact on the final image and be very sensitive even to small variations.

    • For photos, CFG should remain low (1.5-2.5) to avoid plastic skin.

    • For fine art and illustration it is more complicated because it depends on the medium. For "rough" styles (painting, watercolours etc.), CFG should stay quite low in the 1.5-2.5 range but for anime or comic style, CFG needs often to be pushed further to achieve the desired style (3-6 or more).

    If the image is messy/malformed or blurred, it is often because the CFG/steps are inappropriate for this image, but it is not always easy to know whether CFG/steps must be increased or decreased (at least to me 😊).

    There is for sure a lot to learn concerning Flux behaviour which is quite different than SDXL and we will need to adapt.

    Workflow

    All my images are uploaded with embedded ComfyUI workflow which is alas incompatible with CivitAI processing and most often prompt cannot be retrieved. You can however download the original PNG image with the workflow included by clicking on the "DOWNLOAD" icon in the image viewer.

    Why I try to mostly publish images straight from my model with maybe a bit of a Lora (mine or some detail enhancer), I also sometimes now use Controlnet to get better more detailed compositions more easily: in this case the source image is obviously not in the workflow, but I guess you can still use the image I publish as a source if you want to make a variation :)

    Past


    Starting from E serie, models are evolving sometimes by merging with other models (thanks to other contributors!), but mostly via training on my own dataset: a modest dataset (~2000 images currently), but I try to somehow compensate with quality and originality.

    Starting with Fv1, I have included many synthetic images I created using previous versions: playing hard with prompt and retouching when necessary the result in Photoshop in order to have a dataset which contains many original images.


    The core idea behind this model was to create a versatile tool by merging some of the best existing models which fits my personal taste (photography and fantasy art to make it simple). My primary goals were:

    1. Photorealism: The ability to produce stunningly realistic images of both people and objects/nature.

    2. Flexibility: The ability to create highly stylized images, allowing for artistic expression through various styles and combinations of artists. I am from a older generation and comes from Europe so "style" does not mean for me "Japanese kawaii aime with boobs" or "DC Comics cartoon with lots of superheroes and voluptuous blonde babes" but more from a univers of Frank Frazetta, Milo Manara, Boris Vallejo, H.R.Giger, Wojtek Siudmak and such fantasy art masters: there are boobs involved for sure, but the style is somewhat different :P

    3. As I doesn't like being limited in my exploration of the human body, the idea is also to have a fairly capable NSFW model. However, dur to the nature of available training images in the data sets, NSFW often comes with a strong bias toward either porn photos or porn Japanese anime and impact the flexibility (typically as soon as you use the word "sexy" in your prompt you need to weight in the style). This point is thus NOT the priority for the base model but is pushed forward in the NSFW model.

    Description

    A merge between versions Cv6 and Fv2 aimed at improving NSFW support while maintaining the excellent styling capacity of Cv6.

    I think the result is actually good and this version is now the best option for NSFW illustration I would say with a better understanding of NSFW concepts compared to Cv6 and more versatile styling capacity than Fv2.

    Weighting the styling may be necessary when the prompt is a bit long to avoid "diluting" the style.

    FAQ

    Comments (19)

    highfalutinNov 16, 2024· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    Really beautiful faces and composition in Gv1; even better than CyberRealisticXL at times. Also fixes the issue in Fv1 and Fv2 of "dark hair" being 100% of the time interpreted as "black hair". 👌

    cr_cat387Nov 17, 2024· 3 reactions
    CivitAI

    Combining two of my favorite models gave a great result!

    theAramintaExperiment_ev4 + albedobaseXL_v31Large - theAramintaExperiment_ev4 x 0.5_trainDifference

    Got a great all-round model that generates perfectly, knows and can do a lot of things including my favorite Soviet theme .

    My old LORA's started working much better in the model after this merge!

    aramintastudio
    Author
    Nov 17, 2024· 1 reaction

    Hey, nice to see my model used as a base for other merges :)

    aramintastudio
    Author
    Nov 17, 2024

    And thanks for the buzz!

    kunde2Nov 17, 2024

    what is the effect of doing A + (B-A) ? So far I was only aware of A + (B - SDXL Basemodel) which does make sense to me. Update: After experimenting I can see that A + (B-A) gives the same result as just B which makes sense since we are adding/substracting weights.

    cr_cat387Nov 18, 2024

    @kunde2 albedobaseXL_v31Large is a more universal model that knows more - but gives worse results.

    I tried to improve it by merging it with theAramintaExperiment_ev4

    “SuperMerger”

    Weight sum

    trainDifference

    alpha=0.5

    0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1

    but I am new to mergers and maybe there are better options - that's why I wrote to the authors of both models.

    P.S. I write through a translator.

    P.S. I'm testing theAramintaExperiment_Gv1 now - maybe even better results with it.

    pht001Nov 17, 2024· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    really good!

    cr_cat387Nov 18, 2024
    CivitAI

    Could you tell me which models are included in the latest model?

    In theAramintaExperiment_Gv1 there appeared Soviet symbols in the form of sickle and hammer.

    In the new model albedobaseXL_v31Large the same. Apparently in both models added some one and the same model with Soviet symbols - here is its name and I would like to know?

    aramintastudio
    Author
    Nov 18, 2024· 1 reaction

    Gv1 si only a marge of Fv2 and Cv6, but I havé uses a ton of models in the past :) You can read the description of the model and each version for more détails.

    h_uhNov 19, 2024· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    Top 1 model

    aramintastudio
    Author
    Nov 19, 2024· 1 reaction

    Seems good, right? Thanks!

    johnsmitNov 19, 2024
    CivitAI

    Fv2 is better at futa compared to Gv1

    aramintastudio
    Author
    Nov 19, 2024· 2 reactions

    Fv2 is somehow better at everything "unusual NSFW" indeed :) But sucks at creating styled images:

    dinneloNov 20, 2024
    CivitAI

    I always get this error trying to run your workflow and don't know how to solve it please some help :) Value not in list: clean_whitespace: '' not in ['true', 'false']

    aramintastudio
    Author
    Nov 20, 2024

    Not sure what is the issue, but I had to update my workflow recently to solve some issues with latest ComfyUI version and only the images posted for Gv1 version are up to date right now.

    Alas workflows seems to break easily with new version of ComfyUI or custom nodes 😕

    Ezyn05Nov 25, 2024
    CivitAI

    Camera types?

    AddictiveFutureDec 26, 2024

    It's very hard to prompt them, but it is not impossible.

    cr_cat387Dec 1, 2024
    CivitAI

    Are you by any chance planning to release a model like Ev4 under SD 1.5 ?

    aramintastudio
    Author
    Dec 1, 2024

    Sorry, but it is not planned no :/

    Checkpoint
    SDXL 1.0

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    Platform
    CivitAI
    Platform Status
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    Created
    11/15/2024
    Updated
    8/12/2026
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