Vic, an OC by rekks
Main Tag:
victAppearance:
mature female
pearl necklace, sleeveless, blouse, skirt
crop top, booty shortsOptional:
high collar <--- combining this with "blouse" might result in a more faitful lookDescription
Comments (5)
Why you don't use more detailer descriptions?
This works better:
vict, blonde hair, short hair, blue eyes, milf, mature woman,
sleeveless blouse, white blouse, crop top, black shorts, pearl necklace, high collar,
Because none of it is trained. Therefore it feels redundant for me to add.
Most of the times she should gen with the correct hair color/eye color without prompts. Leaving the prompts out results in less bleeding.
SHOULD she gen with the "wrong" hair color, I figure people are smart enough themselves to add stuff like blonde hair or short hair or whatever.
@Qneez I don't want to irritate or offend you. Thanks for your models, they great, but...
1. Can you add at least "high collar" to tags? This tag is really helpfull.
2. "I figure people are smart enough themselves to add stuff like blonde hair or short hair or whatever."
I'm lazy and i'd be happy to just copy/paste carefully written description of characer. I'ts not so hard to you to add few words to description. Also there is situations when it's hard to tell what color you see (here, eyes color, as example: https://civitai.red/images/132141937). Or with clothes or hairstyles, when you simply don't know to describe it in English (for me it's a very common problem, because English is not primary language).
3. "Because none of it is trained."
Providing more tags you provide more "explicit" controls to user. You omitted "high collar" and therefore you decreased chances to get right look of Vic's blouse. Omitting color info also leads to a dozen of problems, especially when you decide to use Vic's model with another models (which is very likely).
P.S. I'm still doens't provide tags (in description) for characters apperance for this model)
https://civitai.red/models/1021900/kodnn-or-for-illustious-v01-or
But example images have all necessary information.
@search_bot im not offended, I just try and explain why I do things a certain way :)
1. "I'm lazy and i'd be happy to just copy/paste carefully written description of character"
My point of leaving out the tags was so that these models dont become overtagged messes. If a character has the same hair color/style etc in every image in your dataset you dont really have to tag it since it should "default" to blonde hair etc. If you take a look at the prompts for the showcase images for example I didnt use the tag blonde hair in any of them and they all turn out with her having blonde hair.
I do agree with your comment about maybe adding some tags for people whose main language isnt english.
2. "Omitting color info also leads to a dozen of problems, especially when you decide to use Vic's model with another models"
This is true and not true.
It is true when combining my model with a model that does color tag everything.
It is not true when combining the model with a model that doesnt color tag everything.
Ive personally had better results removing as much color tags as possible, because like I said earlier it causes more bleeding, again, in my opinion.
For example, when using color tags, adding "red shirt" might turn both characters shirts red. Blonde hair might give both characters blonde hair.
I used to color tag everything as well in the past, as you can see in some of my earlier models, but I had a discussion with another user (forgot his name, might look it up) about it and since then Ive tried omitting them as much as possible.
@Qneez I tryed a lot of character models from different users and best (closest to original look) results can be achieved with explicit color tags, otherwise you get random colors especially for common things like shorts. Color info really helps to stabilize generations. But maybe it's true only for using this model, rather then for teaching.