Version 3 Update – Semantic Captioning Edition
Trigger: MManara_style
This release is a complete retraining using a revised semantic captioning methodology developed through extensive probing and experimentation after the release of Version 2.
Version 2 was trained using a more traditional descriptive captioning approach and remains available for anyone who prefers its behaviour. It served as the foundation for many of the observations that led to this new version.
What's different?
Rather than describing every visible aspect of an image—including artistic style, rendering techniques, and character appearance—Version 3 attempts to assign semantic responsibility between the base checkpoint and the LoRA trigger.
In practice, this means:
Stable artistic style is largely left for the trigger to learn.
Character identity is left for the trigger rather than being described in captions.
Captions focus on concepts the base checkpoint already understands, such as pose, clothing, composition, camera angle, environment, and visible actions.
The goal is not to describe the artwork more completely, but to describe only the concepts that should remain the checkpoint's responsibility, allowing the trigger to focus on what actually makes Milo Manara's work distinctive.
Why retrain?
During the development of several later LoRAs, I began probing checkpoints with sparse prompts to understand what they already "knew" before writing captions.
That led to a simple guiding question:
What do I want the checkpoint to explain, and what do I want the trigger to own?
Applying that idea consistently resulted in cleaner datasets and more modular LoRAs, which ultimately motivated a complete retraining of this model.
About Version 2
Version 2 is not deprecated or "incorrect."
It reflects the captioning practices I was using at the time and remains an important reference point in the development of this methodology. Many of the ideas used in Version 3 only became apparent after comparing results across multiple generations of datasets.
If you're interested in the evolution of the project, I encourage you to compare both versions—they represent two different approaches to the same training problem.
MManara_Style_v2 — European Comic Illustration Style LoRA (SDXL)
Inspired by the emotional framing, compositional restraint, and romantic visual storytelling traditions associated with European comic illustration and the work of Milo Manara.
This LoRA is not intended as a direct reproduction of any specific artist’s work, panels, or compositions. Instead, the project focused on capturing broader stylistic qualities:
elegant contour economy
selective detail emphasis
restrained emotional expression
voyeuristic and observational framing
romanticized realism
cinematic stillness
watercolor softness
atmospheric environmental composition
The training approach intentionally explored the idea of “absence as detail” — using implication, simplified rendering, and compositional suggestion rather than exhaustive detail.
Training Philosophy
Rather than aggressively teaching:
exact faces
repeated compositions
dense anatomical detail
…the dataset and captioning workflow emphasized:
emotional framing
posture and gaze
interpersonal spacing
compositional asymmetry
narrative atmosphere
selective rendering logic
Captions were manually curated and standardized to reinforce:
visual economy
contour discipline
soft watercolor shading
understated emotional tension
observational composition
The goal was to encourage SDXL to learn not only surface aesthetics, but also aspects of cinematic emotional staging and illustrative restraint.
Training Details
SDXL native training
~100 curated and manually reviewed images
manually corrected captions
trained with kohya_ss
base model: Juggernaut XL Ragnarok
rank: 24
alpha: 12
cosine scheduler
trained to ~3000 steps
Additional caption reinforcement was used for:
line stability
contour confidence
silhouette readability
controlled line hierarchy
Recommended Prompting
Trigger:
MMStyleRecommended reinforcement:
European comic illustrationAdditional helpful style phrases:
observational realism,
quiet sensuality,
voyeuristic framing,
restrained emotional expression,
cinematic stillnessSuggested weight range:
0.6 – 0.9Strengths
This LoRA tends to perform especially well with:
romanticized environments
medium and environmental shots
atmospheric interiors
Mediterranean-style lighting
candid interpersonal scenes
cinematic compositions
elegant silhouette-driven posing
It also transfers surprisingly well into:
landscapes
sci-fi environments
market scenes
atmospheric architecture
emotionally suggestive compositions
Notes
This project is intended as:
stylistic exploration
tribute
compositional study
emotional framing research
The emphasis throughout training was on:
atmosphere
selective rendering
emotional geometry
visual storytelling
implied form
rather than direct visual duplication.
Description
Updated captioning strategy to better allow the trigger to carry all of the style information. This version should be more flexible, cleaner triggering, and more consistently "Manara".
