DOLLY VICIOUS
Dolly Vicious is from the Vicious family. They are nice people and gave birth to a lot of pretty daughters, the best about them is... they are entirely fictional.
WORKS BEST WITH THE TRUALITY ENGINE
DISCLAIMER: All Models released under the Vicious Family are fictional, I can not know every person, every actor, every influencer in the world and resemblances are purely coincidental. While it is possible that I take inspiration from a look that I like, I have not, not will I ever use any of their original photos to create a resemblance on purpose. All my models are either entirely created by prompts and trained on the results or mixed with body parts, facial features of 2 female friends who have consented in writing for their images being used in my process. If anyone feels that one of my models resembles a celebrity, actress or influencer please leave a comment so I can verify and make an informed decision to delete them or not.
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Any chance you could train LoRAs (or their similar architectures) instead of TIs? LoRAs perform much better on other models were TIs work great on the model they're trained on, they quickly lose quality on other models.
Hi there,
I am not a fan of LORA's they are too intrusive and give you less freedom to manipulate the character and almost always affect the overall quality. My TI's are trained with a neutral checkpoint "v1-5-pruned-emaonly" if the quality starts lacking, it's the way the checkpoint it interprets the style words of the TI.
I have testet my TI's with the top 40 check points, they seems to work fine but obviously you can't use the same prompt as in the samples since all check points have their own "brain". Don't use fast negatives because you don't know what you are holding back, if the quality starts lacking, place the TI further in the front of the prompt. I prefer the easy to use practice of TI's and the file sizes. I want people to be able to create their own character based on the Vicious Girls, which is entirely impossible with a Lora.
Sorry :(
@Tower13Studios No need to apologise for such a thorough answer! I didn't know you trained on the pruned base 1.5, that's really interesting to know. Of course it still comes with some caveats of less model coverage, but maybe I just need to investigate my model library a little closer... Though I will say I've found some LoRAs to be very flexible and any that aren't it usually comes down to how they're trained (if the trigger word is "1girl" and nothing else, I usually cringe unless I want that exact look, proper captioning is a must). TIs are also much "cheaper" to train resource wise which is probably how you're able to pump out a lot of high quality embeddings so quickly! Either way, thanks for the hard work for the community :)
@Skittlz is it hard work, getting to look at pretty girls? Man would I wish to get paid for that job :-D I guess the reason why I prefer TI's is the simplicity, simply prompt the model name and there she is. No weights, no trigger words, just one unique name not messing with anything else. That being said, obviously you are experiencing issues (which would be great to hear about in detail so I can work on it on my end) there are ways to give the TI more or less power. The old way would be the +/- prompt and treating it like a Lora or you place it in a different compartment of your prompt. You want more of the original look, place it right in the beginning with no context, it will pick up. I you want other factors to be more prominent, place it somewhere in between the attributes. If you want to establish a particular fashion style via a Lora, treat it like a trigger word for the Lora and the garments should wrap right around her. The more I know about your issues, the better I can help. :-D
@Tower13Studios I think you can see from my recent posts, I'm not having much issue anymore. I don't have the civitai extension installed (it was causing issues) so I can't cross post against the models, but almost everything I posted was from your model, or absolute reality. A few of the Vicious sisters aren't quite my type so I didn't do those, but tomorrow maybe I'll show the results of the model versatility testing I did for the ones I like
@Skittlz thank you :-D can't wait to see it. Tomorrow I am also releasing V3 of Truality Engine which will also be the final version, update is about shaders and light effects mostly
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