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This is basically an alternate timeline version of my Real Hentai Pony 5.0 Diamond if I only cared about making it as realistic as possible, this actually was gonna be 5.0 but I wasn't happy with how much Anime knowledge I lost when merging in more realism, so I scrapped it for the version you guys have now, but I thought it would be cool to start a new model where my only concern is how real I can make it, so I bring you Alchemist Mix Photoreal Pony!
v3 Update: merged in my Alchemist Mix Real Hentai Pony v4 Platinum, which adds diversity, better faces, skin, hair, eyes, and anatomy, better support for Booru/Pony subjects and tags, better support for NSFW, greatly improved prompting, v3 adheres well to prompts in Pony tag based format, and natural language prompting as demonstrated in my first 2 showcase images each using a different prompt format.
Please enjoy and create responsibly everyone.
I'm looking forward to your feedback, and seeing what you create with my girl.
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How much XL in it? Capable for hardcore? Nat language?
Ooof Im doing so much mixing its hard to keep track, Id say maybe 60/40 in favor of Pony, it has a fair bit of XL in it, and natural language prompting works fine but so does pony tags, yall are beta testing this for me as we go lol havent tested this much because I had it benched and then just decided Id release it as a new branch where I don't have to worry about keeping anime character knowledge intact.
@Urameshi Ok, i will test with booru:)
Very clean and good realism, capable for sex, special Pony Kamasutra poses dont work of course.
@ronaldovihaan383 Yeah that was one of the reasons I couldnt make it version 5 for my hentai model, thanks for the feedback though it'll help as I refine this, its just nice to be able to focus on realism alone for this one and not give a fuck what else breaks, eventually I can balance things out better but for now thats my mindset with this, Imma stuff it with as much realism as possible, its already 60/40 so Im sure it wont be long before this is more SDXL than pony
@Urameshi I suggested to BigLove maker too, put his xl hybrid to XL, XL users wants more hardcore.
So if you put this series to XL category, you will have more success. And you wont confuse poor Pony users:))
@ronaldovihaan383 can I switch it whenever? or would I have to take this down an reup it as XL?
@Urameshi I dont know man, but you will need new description.
@ronaldovihaan383 Prolly by v2 or v3 Ill just release that as SDXL and rename it just Photoreal and go from there
@Urameshi Good luck. And make a good description for XL users.
@ronaldovihaan383 Thanks bro, Yeah Ill get to that eventually, its late and Im too stoned to write out a proper description rn xD still not 100% if Im going toward XL or not I can think of a few PDXL models I can mix in with this for more realism and it'll still be Pony, Might just keep this Pony and make a separate XL model, I really dunno yet
Try the new version with Hardcore, should be good now
Sorry for the bad English! A very interesting model, with its own style, hints don't happen very well, but when you increase the weight, it turns out very cool! I understand that this is just the beginning, but I believe that your models have a future) I'll go test the others too) Good luck brother)
Alchemist Photoreal v2 is a big improvement over v1 and is really fun to work with! Just wish the backgrounds were a little bit better quality. It has the common Pony problem of only ever making matte white bedding and difficulty understanding "very dark" or "at night". Otherwise, great job!
Thank you for your feedback, Im pretty sure I have some merger models that can fix the background issue and supports night time photos Ill just have to really dig through my huge toybox of models I merge with but I can fix those problems in a future update for sure
@Urameshi Is there any particular keyword to avoid the washed-out look that's seen in your v3 samples?
This faded, unsaturated aesthetic was mostly present in v1, lessened in v2 and appears to be back even stronger in v3. It's a nice style and slightly adds to the realism, but I'm really not a fan of it being present all the time. Aesthetically, I'm probably looking for something that's >60% Alchemist Hentai v5 Diamond and <40% Alchemis Photoreal v2 in this regard. Just my personal opinion, of course!
@AFD_0 I dont think its in the model just my dynamic thresholding causing that
@Urameshi Okay, thanks. I'll give it a try tonight and see how it looks!
@AFD_0 Cool, I look forward to your feedback- I suppose Ill have to turn Dynamic thresholding off or dial it in better and remake my showcase images sigh I didnt really know it was that bad it looks fine on my HDR TV so thanks for tellin me
@Urameshi Just noticed that you updated some of your v3 sample images, and they do look a lot better now! And I can definitely see how viewing them on an HDR TV/monitor would look completely normal.
@Urameshi Yes, the contrast/saturation looks amazing with v3 and isn't washed out at all.
Backgrounds now look a lot better and more detailed than v1 and v2, though I'm still getting constant light beige walls and white bedding in bedrooms, no matter how I prompt for it. Really not sure why this is a problem with only some Pony models and was never much of an issue with SDXL.
Anyway, everything looks great and seems like a big improvement over v2, other than hands. I seem to be getting infinitely more 3-fingered sloths and other hand mutations than in prior versions, which quickly drops "acceptable results" from >90% in v2 down to ~50%, which is a shame, since they otherwise look amazing. I know this is another very common problem that presents in many Pony models to varying degrees, but this seems to be occurring unusually often with v3 for some reason.
Just some honest feedback. I'm still really enjoying your work!
@AFD_0 Yeah the 3 finger thing annoys me, seems to be a consequence of mixing anime models with realistic models, and Im really not sure how to fix it in the merge, but try using adetailer for hands and add (bad hands) to the negative, it should cut down the amount of unacceptable results, Im hoping as I continue to add in new realism models the problem will show up less and less
@Urameshi I'm sticking with Easy Diffusion (until I can build a new machine) which afaik, only does correction for face and eyes. Haven't used "bad hands" or "deformed hands" as a negative since the very early days of SDXL, but I probably should try using it again (or resort to a 'better hands' LoRA, though that could probably be merged into the model itself iirc). Nothing worse than getting a handjob from Jar Jar Binks, lol.