you're not artistic person, explaining art to non-artistic person is like explaining newton law to a toddler.

Check it out man. its only a click away to read about something that has quite literally been around for as far back as recorded history, 3500-4000BC. Cheers!!

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/tattoos-144038580/

I don't even understand your criticism. Are you saying that the work of tattoo artists cannot achieve higher quality than kids drawing on the wall? Nevermind, that actually would explain it perfectly, you must have never seen any before. I'd hold off until you do, I promise you they're awesome!

I don't have a tattoo, but what is difficult to understand about self expression? It would be the same as asking why some people prefer to have short hair and wear plain clothes. They want to present themselves to the world as a boring person that should not be looked at. If that's you, that's fine, too. Don't judge people. The only childish thing on this page are your words.

cmon guys, he didnt say its childish or tattoo artists draw like kids nor did he attack you, why so rude? tastes and styles are different because people are different, he was just asking a question and seemed curious, whats the problem with that? is that how you engage in conversations? ^^

so for some its self expression to others, for some its expression to them self, like with a haircut or clothing, you dont necessarely wear a type of clothing to change how you appear to others but how you want see yourself and express your personality. also for some its like a battlescar, a mark you put on yourself to express a thought or to remind of a point in time or an experience. and for the writing on the walls, it can just say i was here or it can visualize a thought or a deeper meaning, and while both, a tattoo and a graffiti/tagging, can just be not more than a dirt stain for some, its art and has a deeper meaning for others, and even of you dont understand it it and makes the world more colorful and diverse which you should appreciate even if its not your kind of taste ;)

@JaysonPhoenix "To me it is like when kids draw on the walls."

@HarroweD yeah i read that but that doesnt necessarely literally mean he'd be sayin tattoo artists draw like kids or tattoos look like kids drawings, hes just expressing that he doesnt understand why someone would do that by comparing it to kids drawing at a wall. its not offensive by itself. imo to me he just seemed curious because he doesnt understand it and tried to engage in a conversation, not just bashing

@JaysonPhoenix are you an artist? If I likened your work to kids drawing on walls, I'd be willing to bet you'd feel insulted. And rightfully so, it's an insult.

@HarroweD but he didnt link anybodys works to kids drawings on a wall, he didnt say "your work looks like kids drawings on a wall" to make it somewhat like an insult, and even then i wouldnt feel insulted because not everybody would have to like my work.

in my understanding he just doesnt undestand why somebody would have a tattoo in general and was trying to engage in a conversation about it so somebody can explain why he would have a tattoo or whats cool about it or whatever, and if he only gets reactions like if he had thrown insults then he cant gain any other perspective or learn why people like tattoos.

and in general imo it doesnt even make sense to think hes sayin "all tattoo artists draw shit" when clearly some draw like shit while others draw great artistic stuff just like in every other field of drawing, especially because thats a highly subjective topic. its a matter of personal taste if you like something drawn on a body and then again whats drawn where, and of course its a matter of taste if you like drawings on the wall too ^^

@JaysonPhoenix Thanks

You are right. There are great artist among those making tattoos. But they are not the ones who decide where to draw.

Linking my questions to the one doing the tattoo, is like if we should blame the pensile for the drawing on the wall. I have no idea why so many thought I was after the pencil, or anyone.

I would put great art on my wall at home.

And I have seen tattoos age badly. That is probably why I am curious to why to get one.

@gensokusan 你是一个傻屄。

@badbro Thank you

there is a de asianing lora, but that might not be exactly what you want, I see you are a connoisseur, but it may put the face back to some "default" state from which you can edit further.

@fcondoran533 That is true i am :). But my problem was more with the age of the face. If you use this Lora with a strong weight it gives the face a specific look or makes it look old. I guess most of the pics in the training data are "older" women, which makes sense.

@badbro got it. thank you