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ℹ️ iVision - Illustration, Cartoon, 2.5D
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Why I Created My Own Access Control
I have been a creator on Civitai since December 2022. My goal has always been to help make model training, design, and development a sustainable, professional activity, not only for myself, but for other creators too. Supporting people who want to create models professionally is good for users, for creators, for the entire community, including Civitai itself.
Civitai has shared some of this vision and has tried to create ways to support creators. Unfortunately, their current Creators Program has serious problems:
Civitai was deplatformed by payment processors and operates at a loss.
The current compensation model pays creators mainly for model usage in the generator.
Early Access limits paid access to only 15 days, after which models must be free.
Buzz extraction value has dropped to ~45% of its original worth, making withdrawals basically a 55% fee.
Bugs and creator feedback are ignored for months, and several team members who used to listen have left.
I believe this system is unfair, harmful, and exploitative. Creators should be able to:
Sell models without arbitrary time limits.
Pay a fair platform fee of 15% or less.
Civitai briefly tested a much better system called Clubs in early 2024, which worked well for creators, but it was canceled after backlash from a loud minority that opposed fair creator compensation. I have long hoped Civitai would fix these issues, as I’ve suggested in my articles:
But nothing has changed. Bugs remain unresolved, feedback is ignored, and I’ve lost optimism about Civitai’s willingness to improve.
That’s why I’ve decided to experiment with my own alternative access control system, a fairer way to share models with users who value my work.
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Difference between xVision and iVision?
iVision is more about illustration, cartoon, and 2.5D style, and I think that version 1 already does a good job.
xVision XL is still a work in progress, I have a few large trainings related to faces to make, to bring it to version 1.
I don't really want to constrain either of them too much, and I would prefer for each user to experiment with them and decide what works better with thier prompts.
This is a magical model
Thank you very much.
It was fun to make this model, and I'm happy that other people enjoy it.
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I love this model
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I experiment with prompts in Fooocus, but I keep getting ugly results with oversaturated limited colours, even when I copy-pasted some parts from one of your prompts. I have no idea what's wrong. When it comes to LoRAs, I use just one depicting cartoony 3D characters, its dataset doesn't have any bad pictures like the results I get. Normally I get low quality oversaturated images with bad prompts, and the quality sometimes improves after I modify the prompts, but I can't seem to get this method working with this checkpoint.
I haven't used Fooocus, but I had comments from users using it, check this thread, maybe you will find something helpful: https://civitai.com/models/314439/xvision-xl?dialog=commentThread&commentId=356962
@alexds9 Good day, I forgot I wrote this comment, but I just tried reusing one of your prompts and I disabled all Styles (by default Fooocus sets 3 styles), and the result came out good. I usually don't change Styles so I had a hard time believing they conflict with this model.
Fooocus is a great starter UI for people who don't want to fiddle with a lot of stuff, but troubleshooting prompt issues will always be a chore . Unlike A1111, WebUI Forge, Swarm/Comfy, etc., Fooocus uses LLM stuff behind the scenes to change your prompt to make it "better". A lot of times it works and Fooocus can give great pics with little effort but its prompt enhancement can sometimes make things worse or break things.
@Blargington Oh right, I noticed that when I use any styles from the Styles tab and check the extended prompt in the log for the result, it has parts I didn't add myself, e.g. Fooocus Pony adds the top 3 score tags.
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