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    An experimental LoCon trained on outputs from my MIX-GEM-T2_2 model (and a few other MIX-GEM outputs to make up the gap). I spent a lot of time finetuning that model to my ideal aesthetic and I'd rather try to retrieve the style directly from the model than try to remix on a new SDXL base from scratch. Outputs are not very clean and this LoCon has a lot of issues. I will likely have to regenerate the dataset a couple of times with cleaner outputs. Likely there will be a lot of versions of hits LoCon, this will be an iterative process with a lot of rebakes.

    Insights gleaned from prototyping:

    • Prodigy is worse than AdamW8bit at training style LoCons on PonyXL, even at a higher learning rate it retains a lot less than AdamW8bit. But it also destroys the base model's posing a lot faster, whereas the prodigy tends to keep a lot better with the original posing.

    • LoCons are better at training for styles than LoRAs.

    • Style retention comes hand in hand with magnifying small mistakes. This isn't a huge issue with ordinary style training, but is extremely problematic when training on SD1.5 outputs because of the way that unnecessary noise gets diffused into random elements which don't really makes aesthetic sense. Case has to be put into selecting only clean outputs.

    Things to try in the future:

    • White background regularization images

    • Hiding hands as much as possible

    • Using copyright characters as part of the dataset

    After testing, for some reason this LoCon works poorly on autismMixSDXL which washes out a lot of the details, but works extremely well on 4th tail.

    Description

    Extremely messy dataset, just a collection of MIX-GEM-T2_2, T3, and T2A images taken off aibooru

    network_dim = 16
    network_alpha = 8.0
    min_timestep = 0
    max_timestep = 1000
    network_train_unet_only = true
    conv_dim = 8
    conv_alpha = 4.0

    FAQ

    Comments (13)

    GiggleGuruFeb 22, 2024
    CivitAI

    Hello! I noticed that you used Lora in your latest generation with PonyXL, however, your generations use <lyco:MIX-GEM-D1 adamw8bit-P1:1> and not <lora:Prodigy:1>. This means that we do not get the same result as you at all. In the download, only <lora:Prodigy:1> is available. Is it possible for you to provide us with the version <lyco:MIX-GEM-D1 adamw8bit-P1:1> that you used in all your image generations?

    Jemnite
    Author
    Feb 23, 2024· 1 reaction

    My apologies, I meant to upload the AdamW8bit and accidentally uploaded the Prodigy one instead. The correct version should be up now.

    GiggleGuruFeb 23, 2024

    @Jemnite Thank you very much! I have another question, what is the difference between <lyco:MIX-GEM-D1 adamw8bit-P1:1> and <lora:locon-adamw8bit-r2:1> ? Could you also possibly upload <lyco:MIX-GEM-D1 adamw8bit-P1:1>?"

    Jemnite
    Author
    Feb 25, 2024

    @GiggleGuru There's no difference, it's just renamed.

    hasooMar 12, 2024
    CivitAI

    Would it be possible for you to reupload the prodigy version as well? I liked both a lot

    Jemnite
    Author
    Mar 21, 2024· 1 reaction

    I don't have any examples images, but it's here if you want it.

    https://huggingface.co/Jemnite/experiments/blob/main/ponyfuckery/MIX-GEM-D1%20prodigy-P1.safetensors

    Tell me your HF username when you request access.

    hasooMar 30, 2024

    @Jemnite Thank you so much!!! Sorry for the late reply just saw this now!

    FireMetalApr 8, 2024

    @Jemnite Hey, found your stuff recently and liked the works someone I follow did with your Prodigy version. I tried clicking the link, but it's 403'd. Do you still have it so that I could download it too?

    pohttemsApr 17, 2024
    CivitAI

    hi, just came across your LoCon and is truly amazing! hope you don't mind telling more about the training process, what Alpha/DIM values did you use? how many epoch/repeats and on how many training images? what Learning Rate? thanks for your hard work!

    Jemnite
    Author
    Apr 17, 2024

    I ran for 20 epochs with 2 repeats, but the one I uploaded was e08 or e12 iirc. It overtrained a bit in the end.

    [network_args.args]

    network_dim = 16
    network_alpha = 8.0
    min_timestep = 0
    max_timestep = 1000
    network_train_unet_only = true

    [optimizer_args.args]

    optimizer_type = "AdamW8bit"
    lr_scheduler = "cosine"
    learning_rate = 0.0005
    max_grad_norm = 1.0
    min_snr_gamma = 8
    lr_scheduler_type = "LoraEasyCustomOptimizer.CustomOptimizers.CosineAnnealingWarmupRestarts"
    lr_scheduler_num_cycles = 4
    unet_lr = 0.0005
    text_encoder_lr = 0.00025
    warmup_ratio = 0.1

    The training data is zip'ed up and available for download.

    pohttemsApr 21, 2024

    @Jemnite hi, I just downloaded the training data, there are NPZ files for each image, do I need those for the training as well? by the way, did you use PonyDifussionXL as the base? or which model it was? thanks a lot!

    Jemnite
    Author
    Apr 21, 2024

    @pohttems The base is Pony Diffusion. You probably don't need the NPZ files, just the captions. I had latent caching on so that's what those are.

    vallib20Sep 8, 2024· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    Can you update this to be closer to the sd 1.5 version?

    LoCon
    Pony

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    Platform
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    Platform Status
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    Created
    2/21/2024
    Updated
    5/16/2026
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    Files

    MIX-GEM-D1 adamw8bit-P1.safetensors

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    dataset.zip

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