A LoRA which reliably depicts the insertion of fingers into a vagina.
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LTX 2.3 Version available at long last! (17-July-26)
Many months ago I tried to use the same training set that I successfully used with Wan on LTXV2. It failed miserably. Now, with LTX2.3 and specifically the 10Eros merge, I thought I'd give it another go. After three different training runs, layering 3 different datasets of medium close-up (29 vids), extreme close-up (28 vids) and full body (28 vids), all manually captioned, I am now satisfied that I have a production quality LoRA that will faithfully produced the desired motion, insertion visuals and sounds correctly! This has been my toughest LoRA ever!
To use this LoRA start with the 10Eros_v1.2 checkpoint and no other LoRAs, and use the sample prompts that come with my Showcase. The addition of other LoRAs and/or different checkpoints will not guarantee results. LTX, like many diffusion models, is incredibly sensitive about finger motion, so anything that might disrupt the latent space can break motion. Enjoy! And please share your generations!
Wan 2.2 i2v Hi and Lo Noise Versions now available!
My detailed training process for Wan motion LoRAs is covered here in my new YouTube tutorial.
I have also written a series of articles here on Civitai on the subject of Video Motion Training.
Notes for use:
No particular activation keywords, just describe the motion that you want (Wan 2.2 seems very tolerant of natural language vs specific phrases)
Example core prompt:
girl pushing fingers into pussy, two fingers, solo, targeting her vaginal entranceThese phrases were included in the training:
- fast rhythmic thrusts
- medium rhythmic thrusts
- slow deep thrustsSuggested extras:
- wet fingers
- slick fingersSuggested facial expressions:
- her expression is of intense pleasure with mouth open and brow frowning
- she smiles while looking at youTrained on solo girls but worked on a series of lesbian couples consistently!
Has been trained using a tight set of 28 videos of 10 different girls lying on their back with the motion of their fingers going into their pussies. Trained locally on my RTX5090 using Wan2.2i2v-A14B Hi and Lo noise models and Musubi Tuner with 1e-04 LR for Hi and 5e-05 LR for Lo. for 2nd pass refinement, 256x256 resolution, network dim 32, 90 frames.
The LoRA seems powerful enough to get the girl to finger her pussy even if her hand is away and off to the side of her body. And also powerful enough to get her to do this in various different body positions. See the showcase for examples of this generalised behaviour. I put this down to the power of Wan 2.2, as the same training set with 2.1 was much poorer.
T2V UPDATE:
After burning 18 hours of time on my GPU (expensive with shitty UK electricity prices), I have been unable to get T2V to work properly, despite the same training set. Since I never use T2V personally, I'm not motivated to put in further time and cost into trying to solve this. However, if someone is really desperate for T2V then please reach out if you would like to contribute funding to it. Sorry guys, but I tried, and my time and resources are limited.
Description
The impossible has been achieved as the LTX finger spatial nightmare has been cracked! See girls pushing their fingers in as they talk their way through it for the very first time!
FAQ
Comments (19)
idk ltx2.3 looks static compared to wan
Did you use it against 10Eros, and no other LoRAs, per the usage notes?
wan looks static too. Depend of your loras.
hey awesome examples! however, i tried getting similar results but i either keep getting 6 fingers or 4 fingers... and she only uses 1 as well... it was going so smoothly before, but now its starting to give me bad results. i used your workflow from one of the examples, and revised the prompt a bit... only changed the scene and the hair color etc... what am I doing wrong here?
Unless I can see your workflow it's very difficult to debug. But in general when I encounter a problem I try to strip everything out and rebuild from basics. In this case you should have 10Eros v1.2 as your base checkpoint, and just this LoRA (and a "cond" distillation LoRA). That's it. Then just use one of the prompts in my examples. If you're still getting poor results, check the seed image. If it's too far to the side of the girl, then results are poor. Low angle centered in front of the girl's pussy produces the best results.
@Generation3dX i am using 10eros 1.2 and your lora and the cond distillation lora. usually when i use an image with a woman not showing her hands in the first frame, then she starts to reach for her vagina, then she starts to finger but her fingers morph and she either has 4 or 6 fingers instead... i used your exact workflow settings too and the exact prompt template...
@Generation3dX https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CS9p2MEQx2oFdJ-Y9sLo7qEXvmRhdgXj/view?usp=sharing here is the result I'm got... its your same settings but I'm currently re-generating with your seed from the example videos
Bro that video looks great. Not sure what the problem is that you're seeing there. Yes, sometimes the fingers don't align perfectly with the vaginal entrance, but she's not sprouting additional fingers or anything.
@Generation3dX hmmm i guess ill keep playing around with the lora until i get it correct... thanks for helping though!
@TypicalLoraLover the result you have there is close if not equal to what I have been able to achieve. If you can make it even better, of course, I'll be interested to hear what you did, but you might already be at the limit of what this lora can achieve.
@Generation3dX i think i got it. but I'm not sure. i guess i just needed to re run the generation and then it worked better than i expected! good lora btw! keep up the great work!!!
@TypicalLoraLover thank you! Yes, sometimes it's just a bad seed. When testing I run at least 3 random seeds off the same prompt and starting image before deciding if it's a crock or good.
Hi, thanks, I didn't try in yet, but could you please share thoughts on how the LTX2.3 dataset differs from the one for Wan2.2? From my test in LTX2.3 it's hard to get fine movements
The LTX2.3 version uses a layered dataset as mentioned in the usage notes. Not sure exactly what you mean by fine movements, but see my response in the other recent comment as to possible reasons for poor results.
Thanks for making this.
So is it the case that LTX2.3 specifically, even with nuanced datasets, struggles to represent insertions or mixing of objects?
object insertion isn't the problem, as my dildo lora was comparatively easy and performs well. The issue seems to be with fingers. They are much smaller, and also of the same color as the person (obviously), and there are many other signals in the base model about what fingers should be doing that weakens the specific signal we're trying to achieve here.
Very good. Looking forward to the next update.
Thanks. This has been exhausting work! Be prepared for a long wait before I dive in again!
I am new to LTX, and this looks really nice! But how do you make the girl only read her lines and not vocalizing the entire prompt?
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Fingering Pussy - LTX2.3 - girl_fingering,use 10Eros checkpoint.safetensors
Fingering Pussy - LTX2.3 - girl_fingering,use 10Eros checkpoint.safetensors
Fingering Pussy - LTX2.3 - girl_fingering,use 10Eros checkpoint.safetensors
Fingering Pussy - LTX2.3 - girl_fingering,use 10Eros checkpoint.safetensors