This lora is to produce the effect of the subject growing bigger. It was trained on mostly male furry videos, so it probably skews towards that in generation.
The alpha version was trained on a larger dataset that included more jerking and pulsing movements to indicate the growth, which tends to be overaccentuated in the generation.
The beta version was trained for more iterations on a smaller dataset that included less visible growth movements, so it tends towards generating things that look like they're just being scaled up.
Wan I2V Example ComfyUI Workflow: https://pastebin.com/jrBihCYA
LTX 2.3
There are no explicit trigger words, but you can include phrases like: "he grows bigger", "you can hear his body stretch as it grows", "expanding in a cramped room", which correlate to phrases used during training.
Admittedly, there's room for improvement with this lora. The training trends are a lot more different than for Wan. At some point, training for more steps gives a worse result and reduces other dynamic movement. I thought it was at least worth sharing to give people a chance to play around with it, since I already spent the time and money to train it, lol.
I use it with a lora weight or 0.9-1.25. It's possible you can get better results if you combine with other LTX movement or adapter loras.
Alpha & Beta
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I've noticed that using a mix of both alpha and beta is usually what you want to do. I typically use 0.65 of beta and 0.55 of alpha. Trying to get a sum of a little more than 1 seems to be a good idea, but play around. That means you'll be using four loras for one generation: the high and low alpha and the high and low beta
There's no specific trigger word(s), but you may need to use phrases like "grows bigger"/"grows more muscular"
If your generation seems to have a lot of jerky movements or "jumping", try lowering the weight of just the LOW lora(s) used. Seems like part of the low noise is those smaller body movements.
This seems to need more steps when using the lightx2v/lightning loras, or else you get jerky movements. I typically end up using 10 steps, 5 High, 5 Low
I usually use Euler Simple
Gamma Version:
This was my attempt at combining everything into just one Lora you can use, which somewhat works, but isn't quite where I'd like it to be. You can use just the gamma lora, but it seems to work differently with different images. I also added some "sub-concepts" you can try to also invoke with specific phrases. Using them also seems to over-accentuate some of the movements, so if the video gets more janky, don't use them.
clothes ripping/clothes ripping offthe room gets crampedgrows more muscular
They have varying degrees of success.
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It seems to need to be anywhere from 0.65 to 1.35, based on the image you're trying to animate. You can just use this one by its own.
You can also mix this with one or even both of the previous alpha/beta versions. Keep in mind that you'll want to lower the weights if you're using two. I find it works better with beta than alpha
If your generation seems to have a lot of jerky movements or "jumping", try lowering the weight of just the LOW lora(s) used. Seems like part of the low noise is those smaller body movements.
This seems to need more steps when using the lightx2v/lightning loras, or else you get jerky movements. I typically end up using 10 steps, 5 High, 5 Low
I usually use Euler Beta
V1:
This was my second attempt at combining everything into just one Lora you can use and not need to use any other alpha/beta/gamma with it, and I think it works decently well. It has the same trigger words as gamma.
clothes ripping/clothes ripping offthe room gets crampedgrows more muscular
They have varying degrees of success.
Note: each one you use increases the effect of the lora, and means you should use a lower weight. If you include the word "grow" multiple times, it seems to overexaggerate the effect and cause the subject to get really inflated/fat proportions.
Generation Tips:
It seems to need to be anywhere from 0.65 to 1.15, based on the image you're trying to animate. You can just use this one by its own.
This seems to need more steps when using the lightx2v/lightning loras, or else you get jerky movements. I typically end up using 10 steps, 5 High, 5 Low
I usually use Euler Simple
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We need a female version <33
While I'd love a female trained version, I've had no difficulty using this for females. I'm really impressed at how well it works.
can you make a Wan Video 2.2 TI2V-5B version?
I've tried making a T2V version, but it ended up making everything look like bad PS1 CGI, probably because of all the non-photorealistic training data.
Solved the problem I had with noise, but now I'm having issues with things vibrating as they grow. Stuff like limbs, sometimes faces, genitalia... any ideas on how to stop that?
I'm gonna guess you need to play around with the CFG and the weights. Maybe specifically the LOW weight to be lower.
@cruffsant461 Been trying weights and that alone doesn't seem to be cutting it. As said, finally got the noise to go away by upping the CFG of the high to 2, but it never really stopped the jittering/vibration issue. What would you recommend the CFG of the LOW be if I was to change it?
I only ever used 1 for the Low CFG, so not sure
I had the same problem pretty bad. I was using resolutions around 640x640. I bumped it up to 720+ and it seems to have calmed down.
Works great with 2+2 on the latest lightx2v high\noise i2v checkpoint(not lora) and lms simple
UPD: still a lot of jiggle and no way to reduce every part of the body getting fatter.. still, great work!
This is awesome, I'd also like a version that focuses on penis_expansion if possible
This model can kind of do it if you specify "he has a large penis that grows bigger". Maybe at some point I'd try to do a more focused model.
@cruffsant461 Thank you!!
First off - THANK YOU for making this. Love it and having fun using the models. One question. I am using it for female results and am getting somewhat enlarged genitalia on the females. Is there a way to minimize or stop that part of the woman from 'growing'. This is in NO WAY a dealbreaker, complaint or anything like that. I can work around it but I thought it might be worth an ask. Thank you in advance!
Hmm, maybe try including more in the negative prompt and slightly increasing the High CFG
@cruffsant461 YO! Thank you so much for the ideas. I will try them out. I am pretty new to generative stuff so I didn't even think about how I could use negative prompts. Appreciate the reminder and any more tips you have - feel free to toss them my way. Just assume I know nothing - that's a good start! haha
Negative prompt and higher cfg simply doesn't work, so I guess this is as good as we can get.... I guess to have just a scaling-up process(without body parts getting fatter or longer), it has to be trained on such videos, but there aren't many of those.
Perhaps, Sora videos can save the situation, or other i2v videos were growing just a scaling-up process.
Actually, you can create a lot of those using i2v first-to-last frame. If the author can share his training config, I perhaps can try something out.
@Randmeist Yo! Thank you for the reply and the ideas. I'm not too familiar with generative AI overall (still learning) but appreciate you taking a moment. I do love this LORA, it's actually really, really good. I really just want to iron out this one little thing (if possible). It's certainly not any kind of deal breaker. haha
@Randmeist curious how would you get the last frame though, like manually edit the first image larger? I'm thinking of training a growth lora too. but slowly, haven't had alot of time.
I am curious how is everyone creating your prompts for both image and this growth wan? are yall using llm assist or just have your fav you've been tweaking?
I'm trying to generate in Civitai with Wan 2.2 and I'm not getting proper results; most of the time the subject moves slightly and shimmers without any real movement or growing. I'm using some of the basic prompts suggested in the article. Is anybody having success generating online without ComfyUI?
I personally haven't tried it online in Civitai, and I also use the lightning loras with this lora.
Which lightning lora?
@wakolo
Wan_2_2_I2V_A14B_HIGH_lightx2v_MoE_distill_lora_rank_64_bf16.safetensors and
lightx2v_I2V_14B_480p_cfg_step_distill_rank64_bf16.safetensors
If you don't mind a question from a total beginner, should that workflow you have not be expected to run as is on ComfyUI's website? I wanted to see if I could at least recreate an example but immediately got a bunch of 'prompt outputs failed validation' errors that seem to relate to ComfyUI not finding the used models. Figured I'd ask in case it's something simple I'm missing!
I run Comfy locally, and the workflow should work locally. Not sure what should happen if you're using some cloud version of Comfy. You may have to repoint the models in the different nodes to the versions and places you have them in either case
Works very well with Cumflation lora and can replace Breast Expansion lora.
Muscles can be disable by negative prompt.
Any plans to release an LTX version? Great work BTW!
I actually tried a bit ago with training an LTX version, and it just didn't seem to work. It didn't learn the concept. I'd probably have to spend a good deal of time trying to figure out what LTX needs different from Wan.
Ah that's a shame but appreciate the fact you tried!
@mistergoodbytes464 I'll probably eventually try again, ha. Maybe LTX 2.3 will be more effective than the 2.0 I tried it on
@cruffsant461 I've been super impressed with 2.3, defo a jump in quality from 2.0
how are yall running LTX2.3? is 24gb vram enough?
@growthwind yeah, 24GB is enough. That's what I'm running
@growthwind I've got a 12GB 4070ti and it's working fine, although I do also have 192GB of RAM which might be helping a little as well
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