Dual Penetration
This was a request, which I believe made it consensual, so we're good!
WAN2.2
Not my most flexible LORA; the dataset, same as below, wasn't all that varied... many different models but they all have the same rough profile and body type. Alas, it's stable and consistent!
Set collection wise, I've been more interested in softcore stuff lately; but retraining my WAN LORAs in 2.2 is low hanging fruit...
WAN2.1
~12 videos 24fps 50 frames trained at 5e-5 for about 14 hours
Wildcard prompt
A beautiful {Russian|French|Swedish|Swiss|Latina|Austrian|Dutch|English|America|California} woman with {very long|long|medium length} {blonde|black|brown|dirty blond} hair is engaging in dual penetration with two men, lying back on top of a {African|Asian|Caucasian|Latin} man on a {black|red|white|blue|gray|leather} couch while another {African|Asian|Caucasian|Latin} man penetrates her from the left.
{high angle|eye-level} view
The man beneath her thrusts into her anus from below as the upright man enters her vagina from the front. Her head rests in the top right quadrant of the frame, with her legs folded over herself.
She is {completely naked with {large|medium|small} breasts and a {hairy|hairless} pussy|wearing a {white|red|black|beige|pink|purple|ripped} tube top}.
The man above holds her {left kneepit|head} with his left hand as he thrusts.
Her skin appears wet from oil and perspiration making her body glisten in the light.Training Notes
Keeping it simple... key phrase, positions, traits, background and lighting when notable.
Disclaimer
Repromptibly.
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it works, here's a prompt, use guidance 10+ because it is consistent in reproducing the two dudes, go lower and one of men might not be rendered at all.
A young Arabic woman with very long dark hair, curvy body and massive breasts with dark nipples is engaged in dual penetration with two men, lying back on top of a Black man on a white couch while another Black man penetrates her from the left.
The man beneath her thrusts into her anus from below as the upright man enters her vagina from the front. Her legs are folded over herself and she is holding her left leg below the knee with her left hand.
She is naked.
The man underneath, wraps his left arm around her thick thigh, his hand resting on near her mound. The man above holds her left knee-pit with his left hand as he thrusts before leaning further forward over her, supporting himself on the top of the couch backrest.
Her face has aroused expression, she wears makeup and has soft crimson lips.
The scene takes place in a well-lit living room. bright scene. realistic.
The most amazing LORA in the community😍😍😍😍
I don't know, I cannot get this one and the facefuck one to work in framepack i2v. They just won't move.
Motion is part of the "block chain" and so if two LORAs are fighting for motion, they may conflict and not work as expected, try them alone first and see if maybe the problem is elsewhere.
az420 Thanks for replying. I tried it independently with default prompts with different images, and can confirm unfortunately DP lora almost doesn't move(At least with framepack i2v on anime images). Facefuck one is not moving as well, but I find that it seemed to be able to guide the penis-mouth position if applied other motion lora so I still use it sometime.
forever9801 interesting... I don't use framepack but I wonder if there's some setting that might help with that... what weight are you using for your LORAs?
az420 I usually start with suggested weight or 1.0 with the single lora to test its effect. Your new three quarter angle doggy style seemed to have the same result of not moving as well(tried 1.0, 2.0, 10.0 strength. Last one turned to mosaic, 2.0 no movements). I don't know, some LoRAs just doesn't work in framepack I guess.
I just realized that the facefuck one is not made by you, sorry for the confusion.
Your front doggystyle and missionary POV LoRAs works fine in framepack i2v. I'm not sure if there is any parameter differences there.
forever9801 interesting, but no, my settings are pretty darn consistent. Are you using pieces of the wildcard prompt? Is it possible that your prompt is trigger front doggy and missionary but not this one?
az420 "An anime style video. A beautiful woman with long braided blue hair is engaging in dual penetration with two men, lying back on top of a man on a bed while another man penetrates her from the left. high angle view. The man beneath her thrusts into her anus from below as the upright man enters her vagina from the front. Her head rests in the top right quadrant of the frame, with her legs folded over herself. The man beneath her is grabbing her thigh firmly."
"An anime style video. Three-quarter rear angle view of a beautiful woman having doggystyle sex with a man, thrusting into her vagina from behind. She is leaning forward, kneeling on the bed. She is shy and blushed, looking back over her shoulder at the viewer. She does not speak or move her mouth. Her eye remain half-open. She kept her body and head position still. She is spreading her ass with both hands to show obedience, her anus is visible to the viewer. Semen dripping out of her pussy very slowly. A man is moving his hips back and forth, thrusting his penis back and forth inside her pussy rapidly with large motion at the bottom right of the screen. His hand is not seen in the screen. His penis entering and exiting her vagina. Her buttock jiggles with each of his hip strokes. Her body is being moved back and forth with each of his hip strokes."
These are the prompts I used in DP and 3/4 doggystyle LoRA test. I've been using i2v, so I didn't include the background and personal details in the prompt.
forever9801 I wonder if you're overdoing it with the motion decription, you may be fighting what the LORA provides by so bluntly telling the base model to reproduce things.
If you want to workshop this, start with a very short prompt and expand from there...
This one:
An anime style video. Three-quarter rear angle view of a beautiful woman having doggystyle sex with a man, thrusting into her vagina from behind. She is leaning forward, kneeling on the bed. She is shy and blushed, looking back over her shoulder at the viewer. She does not speak or move her mouth. Her eye remain half-open. She kept her body and head position still. She is spreading her ass with both hands to show obedience, her anus is visible to the viewer. Semen dripping out of her pussy very slowly. A man is moving his hips back and forth, thrusting his penis back and forth inside her pussy rapidly with large motion at the bottom right of the screen. His hand is not seen in the screen. His penis entering and exiting her vagina. Her buttock jiggles with each of his hip strokes. Her body is being moved back and forth with each of his hip strokes.
is a bit long and redundant... try:
Three-quarter rear angle view of a beautiful woman having doggystyle sex with a man, thrusting into her vagina from behind. She is on all fours.
Her hands are on her ass. Semen dripping out of her pussy very slowly.
anime style
I start with the trigger phrase, leave out the mentions of strict visibility or occlusion* that should be part of the scene regardless.
Apparently HunyuanVideo does not do occlusion, meaning, if you prompt for it to hide something, it will probably think you want to see that thing :/
"Semen dripping out of her pussy very slowly" This might imply you can see her whole pussy, which my LORA doesn't really do, and then "very slowly" is going to affect motion, maybe not how you expect.
"His penis entering and exiting her vagina. " This implies the penis exits fully, this alone might break with the LORA, same with entering... in fact the penis REMAINS in the vagina moving 'partly' out and then pushing 'deeper' back in.
The next version of my cowgirl wildcard prompt has a really tight phrase that describes the penis/motion well whole preventing it from ever being rendered outside, I'll share that today most likely.
just brainstorming with you here! :)
az420 Thanks, I'll do some tests. But so far long prompts works in most LoRAs combinations in my testing, so my guesses are those might not the issue. Some of the prompts just came from the suggested trigger words from other LoRAs.
forever9801 Just to be clear, it's not the length of the prompt, but the redundant descriptions of motion. The LORA's primary objective is giving you the concept which includes the motion. If you prompt for the motion too much, that may actually confuse it more. You can have longer prompts, but maybe try without:
"She kept her body and head position still" -> this seems to say "No motion!"
"A man is moving his hips back and forth, thrusting his penis back and forth inside her pussy rapidly with large motion at the bottom right of the screen" --> The LORA shouldn't require this, it may be a source of conflict.
"His penis entering and exiting her vagina."--> again, spelling out what should be default
"Her buttock jiggles with each of his hip strokes. Her body is being moved back and forth with each of his hip strokes." --> two more motion sentences!
I actually had a LORA where the breasts were jiggling quite a bit, I ended up NOT captioning or prompting for this, it was just a natural extension of the concept and doesn't need to be included explicitly.
I'm not saying I'm right about all of this, just things to try :)
az420 Forgot to report. I tried all your suggested simpler prompts but the result is the same(no motion). Your new LoRA of side missionary/spooning works well with default trigger word(also even after adding all my lengthy prompts). Anyway I gave up, some loras just doesn't work :/ I just hope someone can make a pov and 3/4 doggy that works in framepack, those are the really lacking loras now. (And the front view doggy really is difficult to get good motion as well, a little difference to angle and the motion is just gibberish or wrong)
forever9801 Very strange... I use almost the exact same settings for all of my runs, it's just the dataset and captions that change, but I almost never actually caption motion, I want that baked in, not prompted you.
I'm wondering if it's the explicit mention of thrusting that is the difference here:
'The man beneath her thrusts into her anus from below as the upright man enters her vagina from the front."
It appears that you already include this though.
Since this model is still listed as beta, is there any chance you may be expanding on the concept like DAP/DVP as well?
Possible, if you'd like to help collect the footage I could train it :) DM me for specs
Great LORA!
Are you planning to do like cowgirl versions?
@az420 I was referring to DP in the cow girl position. This LORA currently only does reverse cow girl.
@dk3f83faa DP in cowgirl eh? Wouldn't the anal/third person be completely hidden from that angle? 🤔
Occlusion is a huge issue with training... I'm still not happy with the front-doggystyle and one leg up LORAs because of what renders do to limbs that aren't clear in the footage.