Brutal Dildo
The field where I am writing this right now has a label, simply "Description*". The label also has a description... you know, that little line of text below a title or label. The description for Description reads:" Tell us what your model does"...
Well... I'd really rather not, but you know what they say! A picture says a thousand words, and videos, I assume, are at least as wordy... so just look at the showcase, okay?
If you download one of the showcase videos and drag it over ComfyUI, you'll get the prompt and a workflow.
Versions
WAN22-HIGH-LOW
I have no idea what I am doing.
Three.WAN
You thought I was done?! HA!
I put a better action phrase into the captions and simplified them for a win win of better tighter... captions. I tested a few epochs and got up to 47, haven't tested past it yet, this thing is magical.
Revised Wildcard Prompt
A beautiful {Russian|French|German|South Korean|Dutch|Swiss|American|Swedish|Austrian|Ukrainian|Portuguese|American|Canadian|Colombian|Australian} woman is using a brutal dildo inside her {vagina,vaginal dildo riding|anus,anal dildo riding},
She is naked{ except for {{black|pink|red|blue|green|orange|yellow}socks|a bracelet|a {black|pink|red|blue|green|orange|yellow} {bra|hat|scarf|shirt|tube top|tank top|sports bra|}}|},
{front view, she is {moaning from pleasure|screaming from pleasure|smiling|gritting her teeth with her eyes {closed tight|open wide}}|front view, she is {making lewd faces|smiling seductively|moaning from pleasure|screaming from pleasure|smiling|gritting her teeth with her eyes {closed tight|open wide}}},
she is {barefoot|wearing {black|pink|red|blue|green|orange|yellow} {thigh|knee}-high socks|wearing a {black|pink|red|blue|green|orange|yellow} shirt},
She is squatting, bouncing her hips up and down vigorously, pumping the shaft of the {red|green|blue|orange|yellow|black|white} {horse-penis|scaly|notched|tentacle-shaped|ribbed|spiked} dildo inside her,
{bright|soft} lighting,{ medium close-up framing,||} in a {doctor's office|bedroom|kitchen|living room|basement|bathroom|bathroom stall|shower},
Two.WAN
Same run as One, just a different epoch. I extracted many, tested all, cried, in part from the beauty and in part from the failures and came up with epochs 24, 48 and 53. They kept coming back with interesting renders. 48 seemed hellbent on proper dildo penetration, so that became ONE. Today I work-shopped better prompts and found a real winner. It'll probably unleash 48 as well, but 53 got this massive habit of creating massive dildos, but it was missing some consistency. Well! Pop in (pun intended) this huge (pun intended) Wildcard template update and BAM (pump intended), whoa, holy f--k that's not possible!
Epoch 24 is not uploaded, but I kept it. It has a certain flexibility that 48 and 53 lack, but also produces much smaller dildos, hence it not making the cut. If you're curious though, maybe I'll upload it.
One.WAN
I automated some caption transformations to save time so this run had a couple caption issues, however this epoch was strangely capable. I'm weary of my dataset but finding clean material where models aren't dressed weirdly or covered in tattoos is tough, so I'll need time, precious precious time! :P
HunyuanVideo
Wildcard Prompt
A beautiful {Russian|French|Swedish|Swiss|Latina|Austrian|German|Dutch|English|Irish|Portugese} woman moves her hips up and down while an upright dildo remains firmly inserted inside her vagina throughout the motion.
{low angle, ||} {front view
She is {happy and blushing|wincing|furrowing her brow and grinding her teeth|screaming from pleasure|extremely surprised|moaning from pleasure}. She has {large|medium|small} breasts and a {hairy|shaved} pussy.|back view}
She has {very long|long|medium length} {blonde|black|brown|dirty blond} {straight|curly|wavy|pony-tailed|pigtails|styled} hair and is {squatting|kneeling} {against a simple {space|black|white|red|blue|pink|teal|rainbow|multi-color|tie-dye|mandala} background|at a look out point above a night cityscape|in a modern bedroom|in a white tile bathroom|in a shower stall|in a tent with open door flap showing snowy mountain peaks|in a living room|in a dirty basement}.
She is completely naked {with glistening wet skin from oil and profuse sweat with no tattoos|except for {a colorful crop top|a beret and dark thigh-highs|a vivid color bra|a beanie|a collar around her neck|bracelets and hoop earrings}}.
While the dildo is mostly hidden inside her the whole time, it is {giant|huge|thick|massive} {black|red|white|beige|multi-color|pink|purple|blue|glass} and {notched|ribbed|horse penis shaped|dragon penis|tentacle shaped|smooth|irregular|spiked|bumpy}, evident when her hips rise.Brutality
I'd say this is the final version but I thought Three was going to be the penultimate LORA for this concept. Truth is that even this one has some weaknesses, namely that it doesn't do anal very reliably, especially from the front. However, it will render anal from the front if you add "leaning back" to the prompt, I guess that one video showing that pose made it a rule.
-You lean back, straight up your ass!
This version was trained on a cleaner set with better captions. I changed to 24FPS from 25PFS. 6e-5 was my learning rate with a smoothed loss just under 0.03 for the best performing epoch (90, although 80 was doing really well too). 21 videos total, equally distributed between front and back views for 50 frames per video. Total training time was ~18 hours.
Curve

Other versions
4.2.0
The runner up! As I zeroed in on optimal captioning strategies, this run did the trick nicely with much better faces. Enjoy!
front
All front view, mostly low angle, 5e-5, 256x256 and 432x240 for 50 frames. This one delivers brutally. Try "notched, scaly, horse, tentacle" with various bases. No back views trained at all. Works very well and seems very flexible. The lower resolution might be hurting things like hands though...
back
I finished training this a couple days ago but my tests were not delivering the results I was hoping for. Multiple concepts are harder for LORAs to hone in on and this run didn't impress.
However, this version does the back view very well, while front does front views better, so if that's what you're going for, you can probably skip back. It is what it is...
Three
Because I found that back will place the dildo in front of the woman and not always inside. and not a single one of my videos was not 100% focused on the penetration, clearly something went wrong.
I studied the concepts and dived deep into the subtle effects captioning and prompting provide to this process. I learned even more about captioning, including some very non-intuitive things, all detailed at length in my training guide. I think the fruits of my labour and patience with training a multi-concept LORA have mostly paid off, or maybe my prompts are just better... (Narrator: His prompts were better.)
Prompting Tips
I changed the Wildcard template:
I had to remove "in and out". That was counterproductive.
I had to add "inside her vagina" right after the key phrase, that seems to really have the right effect.
Mentioning that the shaft is "pumping back and forth" disconnects it from the description of the dildo itself, which I think also helped things get rendered in the right places.
Prompt in natural language. Describe the most important parts of your concept right up front, leaving deeper tokens as modifiers rather than scene definers.
Anything you write, the model will try to render, so make sure you actually want to see what you are describing. Sometimes you want to imply things that aren't actually visible or think about how the model sees it, versus what your understanding of the scene is.
Training
My training techniques are discussed at length here.
Disclaimer:
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FAQ
Comments (30)
Is this a T2V model? Could I2V work?
I2v could work. I'm not aware of HunyuanVideo LORA's being different in this regard. I haven't done much I2V yet though... my rare attempts produced nothing of value so I backed off...
@az420 I will it a shot. Thanks for your response.
@dreadfulpirate let me know how it goes!
@az420 I have it working well for i2v , it gives good movement and lots more detail on the dildo and where it enters the pussy, , thanks for this really great lora ,
@az420 Its gone very well. Need a better GPU. lol.
@dreadfulpirate me too , lol
I2V works well with this LoRA in FramePack Studio if you have a system that'll handle it.
this one's wayy more reliable, and great job fitting both concepts!
true, it's warping my face loras to look kinda angry or something and it's been happening with the previous models. if you ever have time to fix that, I'd really appreciate it!
if you ever take requests, I don't think I'm alone in wishing there were a decent doggy style front view lora. the current one that's out there warps everything!
re-captioning session #183 begins!
ChatGPT had a lot to say about avoiding face details, even though 90% of the training data does not show faces. I'm optimistic about another training run correcting this. Stay tuned!
As for the doggystyle lora, which perspective are we talking about exactly? Do you have any examples for me?
My current understanding is that for concepts like this we need as many videos as possible that show damn near the exact same pose/positioning. If you were willing to help collect the dataset that might expedite this :)
Now that I am captioning minimally I think I can handle that part pretty well.
@az420 oh gawd that's insane lol
you are amazing my dude, thanks!
@az420 this lora came out quite early, which was awesome, but it's a quite rough to work with:
"HunyuanVideo Doggystyle Facing Camera"
version 4.2.0 has much nicer faces!
See my notes for getting that dildo INSIDE, and... I release a BETA of front-doggy yesterday, I'm working on a real training run now, maybe tomorrow night...
@az420 bro, you are a god. can't wait to test these out!
https://www.reddit.com/r/HoleWreckers/s/gDsVzxcxeC
You may add a Starryfawwn porn star to a training dataset - she rides very big dildos
I had her in the initial sets! The ones I had didn't seem brutal enough, and her tattoos are a bit problematic for keeping skin clean. Thanks for the tip though! Truth is I have a version of this that outperforms even Three, but.... I think I can make it even better so I've queue it up for retraining!
@az420 brutaldildos.com had great videos from year 2005 (in 320p or 480p resolutions). They latest videos from 2020 and up are all shit. https://analonly.org/brutaldildos-2005-2011-full-siterip-349-videos-huge-dildos-anal-porn/
Also http://ftvgirls.com/ has a lot of videos with girls riding on big dildos.
You can search and download their torrents here: https://pornolab.net/
@guy33 Thanks for the sources, but, you know, I already trained this. Is it not performing to your expectations? I do have one more training run that I think will cap this off, but I am looking to move on to other concepts :)
@az420 your Lora works great, I just thought that more sources could help you train refined version of Lora if you decided to do it.
@az420 siswet and argendana is all you need my friend ;)
@az420 seems like the next logical step unless you're moving onto something other than insertions would be objects such as bottles, fisting, etc...
Or one thing I'm not seeing at all in Hunyuan or WAN is DP, DVP, DAP. Just suggestions, good job on not just releasing a one and done. I noticed the 4.2 is a little more prone to putting the dildo in front of the subject and having her put it in her mouth, similar to version 2 but it can be easily prompted out so not actually a problem.
@Pity_the_Foo I plan to create these contents!
@huoshuimoji716 looking forward to it, hopefully soon lol
@Pity_the_Foo I may have undertrained this one... I might run it again and see how deep it can go ;)
@az420 on another note, I'm curious if you have any insight into how to combine action loras and/or character loras to get meaningful results? Finally figured out that the lora loader I was using didn't have the ability to change from single to double blocks so I think I have that sorted (probably not lol 🤣)...
That being said is it possible in your experience to take say a cowgirl lora and a missionary lora and get a result with double penetration? I've messed with blocks, strengths, etc but always end up with mostly garbage results. Thanks for your time and hope to see what you come up with if you retrain this lora. Cheers ✌
@Pity_the_Foo I could be wrong, but no I wouldn't expect something like that to work. Combining LORAs is typically to add a separate idea or to compliment an existing one. A missionary LORA is going to be trying pretty hard to put ONE penis in ONE vagina, overlaying an anal LORA, for example, would probably just have the LORAs fight and produce nightmares.
@az420 pretty much what I thought, but I do like to "think outside the box" so to speak 🤣 so figured I'd ask in case I was missing something. Cheers.
@Pity_the_Foo what you can typically do is put a character lora with a missionary lora and that should work pretty well, different layers...