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    Sex Motion Helper (prototype) - v0.3
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    This LoRA is designed to bring more motion and detail to Hyvid hetero sex scenes. It should be used with other motion LoRAs, using straightforward natural language prompts. Consult the prompting for LoRAs you combine with this one.

    This LoRA improves other sex LoRAs in the following ways:

    - More motion when combining with character LoRAs.
    - Larger range of motions and facial expressions
    - Better lighting and environments
    - Higher detail of bodies and anatomy
    - Crisper outputs at higher resolutions - lower the strength of other LoRAs if you get blurriness

    Tips

    • If you get jitter or sudden movements, try turning up flow shift. Going from the standard 9 to 17 can improve fluidity, especially when combining character LoRAs.

    • Adding the Boreal LoRA at 0.2 - 0.3 strength can improve hands, feet, and other fine edges.

    • The simplest way to use this is to start with an existing generation that you want to add more motion or detail to, then add this LoRA at 0.2, 0.3, etc using the same seed until you find the sweet spot. The amount of strength needed is dependent on the other LoRAs, so you will need to experiment a bit.

    • When using as a standalone, you'll get very different results in widescreen vs. vertical aspect ratios. The training data is all widescreen and includes things like camera pans and zooms, and also a large diversity of angles. Widescreen seems capable of better results but also takes more work to get the prompts right.

    Training Notes

    v0.1 and v0.2 were trained on a large diversity of short PiV clips, but the resolution of the originals was not great so there were lots of artifacts.

    In v0.3 I started over from scratch with 5 videos, each 4k and about 30 minutes long. I used diffusion-pipe to make frame buckets of 121 frames @ 244px and 33 frames @ 512px, using the overlapping_middle method so that the model saw the entire video twice, but with different samples. The idea was to give it higher res with short term motions and then help it understand long term motions with the 244px samples. I made a mistake having one video feature an actress's face more than the others, and it's overfit to her face a bit. The LR was 5e-5 and took about 7k steps.

    v0.4 trained on top of 0.3 using 8 new videos of about 1hr each, also 4k sources, this time focusing on 1st person POV. Since most other sex LoRAs are 1st person I wanted it to improve when combining with them. The sources are all 16:9 aspect ratio so they perform a bit better in widescreen. I reduced the learning rate to 1e-5 to prevent any major forgetting, and the total steps was about 12k. So it has seen about 19k individual samples from 13 videos so far.

    An important thing to note if is that there were no captions of any sort, so it does not come with any new text biases. The idea is more to fill Hunyuan's pretraining gap, which seems to have not included any video porn (hence why it can do porn stills but not motion).

    I have done one fine-tune on top of this (the anal version) just to see if it can pick up on new concepts quickly. This was also trained without captions using one video, and it definitely picked up on the concept quite well just through the video examples. My hunch is that fine tunes should perform even better with source diversity and captions.

    Version Notes

    V0.4

    This version is trained on 1st person POV sex scenes with a goal of improving the motions and understanding of sex from a male's POV. The model does have some understanding of 3rd person POV as well but it's currently less developed. This version will work best in combination with 1st person POV LoRAs such as Missionary, Cowgirl, Reverse Cowgirl, etc.

    Widescreen aspect ratios will yield more fluid and interesting results. The training data is all 16:9 ratio 4k videos, and so using that aspect ratio is going to get you closer to the source material. Using vertical aspect ratio will push you more toward other LoRAs in your stack that use more of those ARs.

    This version does still suffer from some sameface from getting overbiased by a long previous video at too high of a learning rate. This version reduces that but it will take more training to completely neutralize that. The next version will focus on face details, facial expressions, and diversity.

    There are example workflows in several of the gallery posts. The main strategy is to use an existing sex LoRA at about half its normal strength, then combine with this LoRA at 0.5 to 1.5 strength. You will have to experiment a bit, especially when combining image-trained character LoRAs.

    V0.3
    This version is trained differently than previous versions, using higher res samples and greater diversity of scenes. It currently has a bias toward skinny blondes but can be prompted away from that.

    It works quite well on its own as well, just use descriptive prompts to get the pose right and play with the LoRA strength and guidance levels. I have had success using character LoRAs trained on images only up to 1.3 strength with almost no loss of motion.

    It works great with vid2vid, so for those looking for more interesting poses, that is a good option.

    V0.3 - Anal Edition
    This is an even more experimental version trained on one anal video. This is mostly to serve as a proof of concept that the base model can be guided by specific trainings, which opens the door to more specific variants. There is a workflow embedded in the gallery video to reproduce it in Comfy. Sorry for the lack of prompt guidance, I've been forgetting to set save meta to true when re-using past workflows.

    Description

    This version is trained on higher res videos, but has a bias toward skinny blondes. The next version will focus on dataset diversity.

    FAQ

    Comments (17)

    psspsspsspssspssFeb 16, 2025
    CivitAI

    Can you please include prompts in your examples?

    31616Feb 16, 2025· 1 reaction

    This version is trained without captions so I am still figuring out optimal prompting, but in general you want to describe the scene very specifically in natural language. I am seeing this as a base to train a captioned model on once it has enough scene diversity and knowledge. I will post some example workflows for this version once I get some free time.

    31616Feb 19, 2025

    New version now has workflows for most samples.

    ClocksmithFeb 21, 2025

    @blonkus I just tried dragging the only two overhead missionary mp4s I can find and they do nothing when I drag them to ComfyUI

    ClocksmithFeb 21, 2025· 1 reaction

    Okay this one has a workflow
    https://civitai.com/images/58827229

    aipmFeb 16, 2025
    CivitAI

    This is fabulous, best part is you do not need any other lora and works very well with character lora's!! Can you please share your training prompts, will really help unlock its full potential?

    azeliFeb 16, 2025· 2 reactions

    What do you prompt as I just get blowjobs..

    MrToonFeb 16, 2025· 10 reactions
    CivitAI

    Hmm I think your 0.3 attempt degraded your Lora. For some reason I am getting much better results in 0.2. More specific its going out of scope of what it is supposed to do.
    1. It effects the face and makes it look cartoonish
    2. the background matter is also affected by it
    - bystanders are clothed in 0.2
    - bystanders are turned into naked monsters in 0.3).

    31616Feb 16, 2025· 1 reaction

    Yes the diversity of actors is lower, but the diversity of positions is higher. I'm continuing to train it on more varied actors and scenes to address it. As for the unclothed audience...not sure how to fix that. Might be something that I can fix with regularization.

    daldraeicFeb 16, 2025
    CivitAI

    My experience has been for v0.3 even with prompting you get a skinny small to medium breasted woman (even with curvy and gigantic breasts in the prompt), though the hair color did change easily enough. On v0.2 I didn't seem to have this problem so much.

    31616Feb 16, 2025

    Yep this is addressed in the notes, next version will aim to have more range of body types. This version focuses mostly on visual fidelity. I recommend using character LoRAs (combining multiple works well) in order to get different bodies and faces.

    logenninefingers888Feb 16, 2025
    CivitAI

    Hey can I ask what resolution and lr you're using for training? I've weirdly (to me) been finding lower resolution (256) is giving me better results (trying to train a better doggystyle lora) than when I was doing 400.

    31616Feb 16, 2025· 1 reaction

    Resolution of 512 with 33 frames and 244 with 121 frames. I'm only using 4k sources that have high visual fidelity. I think that's a key to reducing blur.

    Nice. Yeah I think i'm picking up some mp4 artifacts working from low-ish res vids. So you do those on the same data directory? (i.e., just list that directory twice with different settings?)

    31616Feb 17, 2025

    @logenninefingers888 Yep exactly, same directory with different settings. In an upcoming stage I want to introduce single frames at 1024px to see if that aids with fine detail, but I'm also worried about motion loss with that. Fingers crossed.

    damiangFeb 18, 2025

    @blonkus Do you use the original 4K resolution in your dataset or preprocess them to 512 and 244? Do you train both resolutions at once or separate batches? And lastly if you train them both, which setting do you set the resolution hyperparameter to (512.or 1024) ?

    31616Feb 18, 2025· 1 reaction

    @damiang I use the originals in the dataset and let diffusion-pipe downscale them. I chunk it out by scene using pyscenedetect and then further slice those to 30s to avoid memory problems during diffusion-pipe processing. I train both resolutions in the same epoch, 244 and 512 (no 1024).

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