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    Update 2/28/25: I release the first successful Flat model (it take too many attempts to count)
    The difficulty of this method required more time. After many trails it has become better than Squeeze. I did not expect this...

    Details

    • Base Model: Illustrious

    • Detox Methods: Flat (v1)

    • Starting Tips: Use artist tags before using quality tags. Quality tags can improve the visuals, but can remove variability and knowledge of concepts. All detox models require specific prompting. If you do not specify you want an element, it will not read your mind (there is still some natural variance).

    • Positive Tags (optional): original,newest,masterpiece,best quality,amazing quality,high quality,very aesthetic,absurdres,highres

      Using too many positives can make generation slow to denoise (more detail must be added), so use higher steps if you have trouble.

    • Negative Tags (optional): worst quality,low quality,normal quality,scanned,scanlines,sketch,unfinished,jpeg artifacts,lowres,blurry

      bold = destructive, italics = unreliable, quality negatives can make style worse (use as you prefer)

    • Sampler: Euler A, DPM++.

    • Scheduler: Normal/Karras/Beta

    Update 12/7/24: I release the first successful Squeeze model (it take 4 attempts)
    I do not like the results of the other methods yet, so I will wait. It will most likely be a Smooth model because it is closest to Squeeze for quality.

    Details

    • Base Model: Illustrious

    • Detox Methods: Squeeze (v1)

    • Starting Tips: Use artist tags before using quality tags. Quality tags can improve the visuals, but can remove variability and knowledge of concepts. All detox models require specific prompting. If you do not specify you want an element, it will not read your mind (there is still some natural variance).

    • Positive Tags (optional): original,newest,masterpiece,best quality,amazing quality,high quality,very aesthetic,absurdres,highres

      Using too many positives can make generation slow to denoise (more detail must be added), so use higher steps if you have trouble.

    • Negative Tags (optional): worst quality,low quality,normal quality,sketch,unfinished,jpeg artifacts,lowres,blurry

      bold = destructive, italics = unreliable, quality negatives can make style worse (use as you prefer)

    • Sampler: Euler A, I don't test others and it is expected they will fail, Squeeze models expect noise will be added each step.

    • Scheduler: Normal/Karras

    Intro

    This is a series of models named "Detox" models. The name "Detox" means that we apply a destructive finetuning process to a base model that will remove weights which contain synthetic attributes and replace them with fresh weights trained on non-synthetic data. A specific set of objectives is chosen for each method, you can read them below.

    Detox Methods

    The base model is processed and retrained using a specific objective. The methods are below.

    • Squeeze (v2) - Relearn details and prompt understanding. Version one keeps weights of the base model, version two retrains weights from scratch to retain prompt understanding. LoRAs often break if the base model is heavily trained on synthetic data.

    • Smooth - Maximize the intersection of the Squeeze method and the base model. It will share more of the base model, so it is good for LoRAs.

    • Flat - Maximize the stability and do more retraining after. It will discard many parts of the base model, for example the Flat v1 is similar to base SDXL rather than Illustrious. This method might ignore or break your LoRA. It will be a unique model which has consistent details and prompt understanding. The goal of consistency allows it to produce unfavorable results, but it will be a good base model for finetuning (I have not tested this). The model will be sensitive to new data because this method tries to distribute them evenly.

    • Shine - Maximize the details, but it can ignore prompt knowledge. This method is almost successful now that I rework it to be better. It is now easy to control, and seem to be okay for LoRAs still, but there is blur issue, likely need more training time.

    What is synthetic data?

    If you see some models trained with generated images, these are considered synthetic because the generation process has noise in all images. If the training data does not specify the difference between normal images and generated images, this noise will be present in the trained model for all images it creates. There are some further issues with generated images, such as the prompts which can include hallucinations. Generated images from SD1 do not respect the prompt, and SDXL can fail this too, but it is less common. If a model is trained to hallucinate, it will do it very well!

    Usage

    Refer to the Details section above and the example images.

    Description

    First successful version. Refer to description for prompting and details on Squeeze models.

    Recommended settings: Euler/Euler A, 30-50 steps, cfg 7.0, Normal/Karras.

    FAQ

    Comments (6)

    civit77899Dec 7, 2024
    CivitAI

    What base model & version were you using? Illustrious, Noob, Rouwei, initium?

    reptilekiller
    Author
    Dec 7, 2024· 2 reactions

    It is the Illustrious link in the Description v0.1 https://civitai.com/models/795765/illustrious-xl. We include a subset of the original training data when retraining to maintain the existing capabilities. The estimates of data is 35%-40% from base, all others are our own dataset. This data percentage is separate from the resulting weights of the model after retraining.

    yakinamashakeDec 7, 2024
    CivitAI

    This is, in my opinion, the best model. Noob-type models are difficult for me to control. Compared to base models, it seems to be able to generate a greater variety of characters. It also appears to produce more detailed outputs. As noted, having more quality tags doesn’t necessarily mean better results.

    Translated with ChatGPT.

    madaraxuchiha88Dec 7, 2024
    CivitAI

    Does this model work with A1111 or do I have to use ComfyUI?

    reptilekiller
    Author
    Dec 8, 2024· 1 reaction

    There is no restriction for this model, you can use any inference service which supports SDXL.

    madaraxuchiha88Dec 8, 2024

    @reptilekiller Good to know! I know with the Vpred models you have to use ComfyUI or Reforge and was hoping this wasn't one of those.

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    Illustrious

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    Platform Status
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    Created
    12/7/2024
    Updated
    6/16/2026
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