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    — v5 PONY Update —

    • Improved Pony handling

    • Fine-tuned prompt sensitivity

    • Bug Fixes

    • Better Textures


    — v4-SS PONY Update —

    • Better prompt handling

    • Turned down some sensitivities

    • Bug Fixes

    • Better fantasy knowledge (not perfect)

    — v3.3-SS PONY Update —

    • Better anatomy and human textures

    • Reduced need for complex negatives

    • Increased prompt sensitivity

    • Reduced need for quality prompting

    READ UPDATE FOR NOTES ON USE
    SS = Super Sensitive (I'm working on a less sensitive release of 3.3 as well)

    NOTE

    This version is very sensitive to quality prompt tokens (saturation, ultra-rez, stuff like that) If you get a solid color generation or noise generation it’s likely because your prompt is over-baking quality or you’re using an overbaked Lora. Try removing that token or reducing weight (Lora weight reduction from 1.0 to 0.8 usually solves it but you may have to go lower if the Lora is super-baked)

    This is still doing well at 30-50 steps. Once I dial the quality in where I’d like it, I’ll work on reducing required steps to speed things up.

    *I've had two people mention that they were having problems with this model, I've asked them to share any workflows and prompts so I can look into it. If it is a problem with the model, I'll issue a hotfix for v3.3x once I solve it. Other than that, remember that this one is pretty sensitive and may not need super elaborate prompts.

    — v2.12 PONY Update —

    • Better Prompt Adherence

    • Improved Textures

    • Realistic Texture and Lighting improvements

    ** I'm still learning Pony training, so bear with me as I work out kinks in my system. This model is still a little bit of a bugger when it comes to animals. I've improved aging, but you may need to beat it over the head a bit in your prompts: e.g. Elderly man/woman, old man/woman, gray hair, wrinkles etc... The model definitely has a hotness problem that I'm working on (and making progress with). I've made some changes in the training to get it to produce different faces more frequently - I've noticed a lot of Pony models seem to be trained on specific faces so I'm trying to break it out of that a bit. It is pretty good at maintain a "character" within a prompt. So the person you get on gen1 is usually the person you get on gen20. Anyway, it's still pretty good between 20-50 steps and I've tried hard to make score prompting work but optional. So you'll see variations depending on whether you use that or not. Other than that, enjoy and let me know about all the cool problems you discover so I can work on sorting them out in the next version.

    — v1.1b PONY Update —

    I’ve been asked several times to drop a pony version, so I have. BUT… this is my first Pony model and I’m learning a lot about how to tune this sucker so bear with me. This version is pretty good with people but needs a bit more arm-twisting with things and animal primary subjects. I’m also testing early access as a way to help explore some future FLUX versions. Anyway, enjoy and let me know what I can do better or even if you just like it. It responds well to 20-50 steps and score prompting works but isn’t necessary.

    -- v3.1 Update --

    • A couple of bug fixes

    • Better upscaling response

    • Improved Skin/Hair textures

    • Better prompt adherence

    -- v2.5 Update --

    • Better Prompt Handling

    • Improved Textures

    • Improved Lighting

    -- v1.11a --

    My models always start as an update to an existing model until I do something weird.

    Anyway, while training this one I discovered something that had a huge influence on my training data and refinement. I'll treat that as the secret sauce for the moment, but it ended up diverting away from my initial plans and had to become its own thing.

    So this started with my model Aardvark 2024 and then quickly started going down a different road. About half-way through this I was completely blown away by Pony and I have to give so much praise to @PurpleSmartAI for that project. Really amazing. This model does not include Pony at all though, I was just inspired by the work and it changed some of my thinking.

    This is definitely starting as a v1.0 - and I will be updating it, more quickly I think due to how everything came together.

    Let me know what you think, and I'll incorporate your feedback into my future training.

    Oh... I get asked a lot about whether I'll turn these into SDXL models - I'm not sure yet and I have a pretty good reason. I train and use embeddings a lot for my own work and SDXL has been a bit of a bugger for me to work around. I'll keep experimenting there but I'm not going to release anything until I know I have it right.

    I want to add a shout-out to 3mcg33 who has some incredible prompting skills. I frequently try their prompts when I'm testing models and I want to make sure I give credit where credit is due. The chimp in the suit is a great example, 100% inspired by 3mcg33.

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    BIG_ASep 25, 2024· 7 reactions
    CivitAI

    An odd fact: The number 250 is an insult in Chinese culture.[doge]

    QuadPipe
    Author
    Sep 25, 2024· 1 reaction

    oh no! I'll change it!

    4809817Sep 25, 2024· 5 reactions

    Lol let them realize they are the only ones who think of it that way and that we're not all Chinese and learn tolerance.

    BIG_ASep 25, 2024

    @goronplus easy! dude, you re so sensitive~LOL~Different cultures naturally produce different understandings, what does that have to do with being tolerant or not, you are so funny!

    BIG_ASep 25, 2024· 1 reaction

    @QuadPipe I'm sorry, I'm just telling you a funny fact, not asking you to revise your price, you don't have any problem, no need to revise it, the number 250 is also just a spoken joke in Chinese culture, not a serious thing, I'm really sorry for misleading you, I'm sorry!

    The funniest thing is that I read your “change” as “challenged”, and then I replied “just do it~” Geez! I'm so stupid! ~I'm so stupid!

    QuadPipe
    Author
    Sep 25, 2024· 1 reaction

    @BIG_A lol. It is a funny fact! I learned something new! Also, if it doesn't hurt me and I can change something little - no harm done.

    QuadPipe
    Author
    Sep 25, 2024

    Also... the pre-release pricing thing. I don't think anyone really knows what the fair price is yet, so I'm totally fluid on that and just trying to keep it low as the community figures out what makes sense.

    BIG_ASep 25, 2024

    @QuadPipe smart~ dude~

    4809817Dec 11, 2024

    @BIG_A I started my statement wit ha lol, and you're calling me sensitive? lol.. I actually think it's hilarious how ironic this is.

    BIG_ADec 12, 2024

    @goronplus What more do I need to talk to you about for someone like you who is naturally prejudiced against the Chinese? Just be happy with yourself and please stay away!

    4809817Sep 25, 2024· 4 reactions
    CivitAI

    There aren't enough models that have super for unnatural and extreme hair colors. Neon Pink for some reason never makes neon pink hair, but makes a light rose colored pink. They're are no point loras that address this issue either. There is a model that can do it, but when I make a mix it gets diluted to the point it won't make the right colors. Anyway this is likely due to the training data, but my wish is that no more is this an issue. Also eyebrows and eyelashes.. of possible.. I know some anime models will respond to colored eyebrows already.

    There's my 2¢

    QuadPipe
    Author
    Sep 25, 2024

    That's great feedback. I'll see what I can do to incorporate that in the next version. The trick will be just to use a trigger word(s) so it'll override the millions of natural hair photos in the dataset.

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    Created
    9/24/2024
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    5/24/2026
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