<p>Illustrious doesn't do well on grabbing from below the arms. Works at 0.7 strength, 1 if you really need the position to manifest. <br /></p><h1 id="v2">V2</h1><pre><code>Pos: gsfb, sex from behind, grabbing from behind, shoulder grab, 
Optional: arm grab, w arms</code></pre><p></p><h1 id="v1"><strong>V1</strong></h1><pre><code>
Pos: gsfb, sex from behind, grabbing from behind, shoulder grab, 
Use at pos if arm disappears: ((grabbing arms)), w arms
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