Despite being close to base pony I promise you a pony experience you haven't had before with this one.Negs: glowing eyes, long nails, bad handsAll images in showcase are base gens, no upscale, no fixing, no detailers or shit like that. But yeah a lot of shitty seeds proceeded them :P genned at 912*1152 I like that res deal with it.For realism 20-30% DST-realism lora is great. Combine with gap0003 pussy lora for slightly different output. or smth totally different, it handles realistic loras really well. Note you do not need to have realistic in tags when using loras, with this model you can source other things and put realistic filter on top, which is very nifty if you know why.Increasing samples to like 40-50 helps a lot with hands but its not a guaranteed solution. This model has a bigger jump between 25samples and 50samples compared to most models.I have a pretty good refiner base for lora stack going. If you dont like the plastic 3d feel off it start with turning down reelmech - u find it on zelda pics below. This stack on lower values would probably fix eyes and hands but for now Im not gonna make a v2 with this stack cause the underlying flexibility and closeness to basepony is kinda the point.Model probably is best with a little lora input. I rather have a good base that is flexible that can be tuned in the direction the user prefers then pushing this harder in a specific direction. Adding 1-2 of your favorite loras shouldn't be a problem? So approach this like you would base pony. And the loras you add can probably have MUCH lower values then on other models to make a good impact. 40-50% no more should be needed and if you add a lora stack values on like 20% on each lora is a good place to start. So what is point with model if you gotta add loras anyway? Well on pony you might need a stack of 4-12 loras. some of which with high values to get out of the shit zone - and now you already have an unbalanced model to add more stuff unto, which means you gotta put in higher lora values to compensate. Where as here maybe only 1-2 is needed on lower values. For v2 I might put in some of the ones I use in the lora stack on cyberpunk zelda pics to reduce this need even further. Im gonna think about just how I wanna do that.It has a few loras at 20%, then its merged with another source at 80/20. The result is a very flexible model, chaotic. The idea here is, you will NOT get the same pose on every gen. Sometimes the girl will refuse the prompt clothing and do something else, sometimes the hair color will be wrong. You know a little surprise here and there. Not just same same same. If you have a little more refinement added adherence and anatomy is good with high variance as you can see on my scooter pictures.And since its not heavily refined if you prompt for example "large eyes" it will show large eyes, sometimes very large. Which means you can construct more radical things then models that are more refined can.You gotta know how to prompt pony. And if you think pony always need scores then you don't know how to prompt pony. Realistic tag for example doesn't need scores and using it pulls out source material that is VERY different. Realism does somewhat the same as realistic but has much lesser impact. You need to select your negs wisely. Hands and eyes can cause problems, if you know what the F you are doing you should be able to manage, maybe? But yeah hands will cause problems for most people here. I consider this a base genner - varied output, things will differ A LOT between seeds and it responds as it should to the prompt. If you want a girl on a scotter in pace that is what you will get, no forced close ups, no need for (((full body))) to make it happen. I might improve this idea somehow in v2. Ever had a model where its hard to get the girl to make a certain pose? Not here, they are not stuck in place at all. But that means you gotta know how to put them where you want them as well. (or leave it open and let them decide themselves).Some seeds will be absolute crap and others will be gorgeous. On some seeds named chars wont look like themselves at all and on others you will wonder why you needed loras to make it happen on other models. The answer is, I haven't destroyed the base - which is actually really good on pony - but it is chaotic. This means poses, faces aren't "fixed" in a certain way. If you want it more a certain way - refine it, inpaint the hands with the refiner model. Whatever you know. A good example of this is Yor Briar - she looks exactly as she should (on most seeds) on this model - a lot of other pony models would need a lora of her to compensate for the "destruction" of the base shapes to make her look like she should. I'm gonna add a lora stack later and take Yor Briar close to fully realistic on this model. Yes you cloud just take a realistic model and slap on a Yor lora at 80% and that would probably be good, but most likely clothing would be boring, backgrounds lacking, and poses stiff. Here you can build up instead of compensating hard. Depends what you want. All models have their uses. This one a very strong flexible base genner that can then be refined with any model you want.It can stand ok on its own but I think the strength here is in the variation of output and flexibility with lora inputs. You can take this realistic or you can take it pixel style np and you can do so knowing that pretty much all material on ponybase is available to you, almost nothing has been "cut" in the merging process. Also since its close to base it should take heavy lora loads before getting cooked. However since it is not refined heavily into a certain style whatever lora you choose will heavily impact the output. Where other models might get away with crappy loras set at 70% and still produce the face you want and the bad parts of the lora aren't noticed, they will probably crap all over this model. (or 5 amateur loras and realistic skin yadayadayda Ive seen you do it!!! all at 70%))) - this is fine here putting on a huge stack but keep lora values at half of what you usually put them at.If you want more realistic touch on this I recommend gaping pussy lora, it has an amazing realistic filter effect.

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